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• remon@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mostly self-righteous virtue-signal.

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  • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But veganism isn’t widely accepted as a virtue, so who are we supposedly signaling to by being combative?

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    • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “is veganism a virtue”

      sounds like a topic for a debate

      like, it certaily is on paper, from a moral standpoint of causing less harm to the environmant

      but “the environmant” is a really vague term. After all, by not allowing John Flesheater have his steak, you’re still technically harming an animal, just morally this time :D (and possibly in terms of health a bit, if there are some kind of external dietary limitations in a given local region)

      Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.

      But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”

      I think veganism is a vanity that we can afford given the right circumstances, that some cultures also try to dress up as a virtue. So if one derives joy or piece of mind from it, they shoule do it as long as they do.

      oof sorry, not coming drunk to lemmy again :D

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      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.

        Pure cope. We know how badly animals are hurt by factory farming methods, and there isn’t a non-factory method that I’m aware of that can meet the demand for meat.

        But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”

        How do I know you’ve ever been happy? I’ve never seen it, so I can assume you haven’t, right? (This is how nonsensical your argument sounds. We can see farm animals get excited about things the experience, like happy cows skipping to their field)

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      • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        judging by the depth of reasoning of my opponents so far, veganism is not only not a virtue, it’s a cope of the fact that ahy life form is inherenly cruel towards the other in a system with limited resources.

        I’d like to be dabated tho, cuz it sounds kinda not nice.

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      • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Please read this and more importantly watch the material linked to see if you still think that “we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them”

        theempathyproject.co.uk/…/the-mothers-of-dairy

        Like I dont have time to get into all the different things going on with your post, it’s a lot, so lets focus on that one thing.

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But veganism isn’t widely accepted as a virtue

      But is it?

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      • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ?

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  • blunderworld@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Grow up.

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