Comment on Charlie Kirk in his own words.

Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But that’s bullshit. They are still qualified it just makes you look at other people. The amount of people who don’t understand DEI is insane. Watch John Stewart’s video in it.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sounds like something to put on my list.

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• Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yes, it is. He always used to harp on affirmative action DEI leading to less qualified and able people getting jobs. So this results in the perception that any minority working in a qualified profession like pilot is only there because of DEI, not because of their skills and qualifications.

  Watch this video for context. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjN6A8ruo4 Parts of it are used in the submitted edit.

  Charlie Kirk has said plenty of crap. There’s no need to misrepresent his views by selective editing.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Charlie Kirk has said plenty of crap. There’s no need to misrepresent his views by selective editing.

    That’s why I’m questioning why people are using this.

    I think his point was that affirmative action would justify forms of racism in a way, and that was a bad thing, so he was calling it out

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  • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But that is not what DEI does. DEI is there ro combat the old white boys club. What makes you think hiring Smith’s sin is going to get you the best candidate.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Exactly, I heard this from people from literal NASA. It changed my whole perspective. It’s about ensuring the maximum number of viewpoints around a given table, because that’s how you avoid blind spots. You want as many perspectives as possible on a problem.

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      • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Diversity in a team has lots of advantages, but that’s not directly related to DEI, affirmative action, and quotas.

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      • Banana@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There’s an episode of Reply All about this where they talk about efficiency and how more diverse teams are not necessarily more efficient at the beginning but over time greatly increase efficiency because more diverse life experience results in more ideas.

        I think the episode is #52: Raising the Bar

        Basically, when faced with a difficult problem, a more diverse teams gets better results, which makes sense because different life experiences = different knowledge bases = fewer gaps.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So it doesn’t apply to pilots then? Kinda just meetings?

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    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      DEI, affirmative action, and quotas are well intentioned to offset systemic disadvantages. How this is implemented and executed on in practice varies a lot. The results of these measures to enable societal change are mixed.

      Instead of using race as a proxy for disadvantaged groups, using quotas for people from poor districts, people with non academic parents, etc. directly might be more beneficial and more broadly accepted in society. The problems in the US, and elsewhere, start with access to and quality of education from childhood on. Trying to fix that with racial quotas for universities seems to be the wrong end.

      Have 60 years of affirmative action fundamentally changed the success of African Americans? How much longer should these programs be used?

      What about the poor whites who now vote for Trump? They are not part of the good old boys white elite club either. The US is obsessed with race and should move beyond it.

      There’s research on affirmative action and it’s effectiveness and overall the results are a bit meh. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/…/ejsp.2991

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