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They’re not all that afraid of what’s out there. They spend most of their time trying to make friends and messing things up by acting like American tourists.

In fact, most of the reason for why humanity is so powerful towards the end of the show is that several of the powerful species have befriended humanity and have given their tech to them.

It’s still milprop but milprop that places a surprisingly large emphasis on diplomacy and dealing with people in good faith. You know, what the USA typically don’t do.

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pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

They’re not all that afraid of what’s out there.

That’s why they are always sending armed soliders first?

Milprop is often like that: Oh no we’re the diplomatic good guys forced to fight. Why are they making us do this? We could’ve been friends, if you just ~~allowed us to install our puppet~~ signed our trade agreement. Now we unfortunately have to raze your cities and salt your fields. I hope you’re sorry :'(

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- lath@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They’re sending a robot with a camera first.
  Then it’s two soldiers + two scientists.
  
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  - Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    isn’t daniel like, technically a civilian all the way through?
    
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    lath@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    No, citizenship doesn’t apply to ascended beings.
    
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- FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I mean, that argument can be applied against Star Trek too, they always send an armed warship to make first contact.
  
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  - pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They don’t go in with guns/phasers ready, heck most of the times they don’t even raise shields beforehand.
    
    And they have a whole protocol and rules for this:
    
    Before engaging alien species in battle, any and all attempts to make first contact and achieve non-military resolution must be made
    
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    FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Which is the same thing SG-1 did, make peaceful contact with weapons for defense.
    
    Even with shields down a federation starship is still a very capable warship.
    
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Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Instructions unclear: Revolt, enjoy your new dictator, and ignore the CIA agents out back unloading cocaine.

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Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
it also, uh, kinda repeatedly pointed out how the military kinda sucks as a structure and how a lot of the time individuals have to ignore orders and rules in order to do do the humane thing.

SGC was good because it was filled with good people, hammond had a powerful conscience which motivated him to let things slide and to do what he could to prevent other parts of the military and government from ruining the good work people were doing.

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missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
the SG teams embody American ideals, while the NID embodies American history. specifically, the NID acts like '60s CIA.

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