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BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠agoI think you need a nap or something
Starting with an insult, as all bad faith arguers do.
because what you said isnât anything I wrote.
It is what they call âparaphrasingâ
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists
So who would be moderating this government forum?
FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy
It literally is though, certainly under capitalism, at least: propaganda is how you convince people to vote for the policies you want/represent.
itâs fascism and fascist control of info.
Yeah, no one other than fascists have ever engaged in propagandaâŚ
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
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LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Define âstrawmanâ and define âparaphrasing.â
You did not paraphrase, you made up an entirely different thing that was never said by me.
Say something negative about Putin.
The government moderates it along with the laws we put into place that protect us. Again, they are already doing this without the laws or transparency via private businesses.
Propaganda WARFARE is new, mostly online, and hasnât been used before 2016. It is NOT democracy to hear a select few peopleâs opinion over and over again.
Capitalism is inherently fascist, see The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal World Order by Gerstle. It cannot be truly democratic due to its inherent fascism, and part of that is the relentless propaganda used during capitalism via commercials, media, etc to sway people from freely consenting and critically thinking. People donât need âpropagandaâ to learn about policies, they can watch town halls, debates, talks, etc, discuss them with each other, and freely exchange ideas. (Doesnât surprise me at all that you are in support of fascist control of info).
Propaganda warfare is literally fascism, made by fascists, to spread fascism.
Hey can you say something negative about Putin?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Strawman: Misrepresenting someones point as a different, less strong, point. Paraphrasing: Expressing the same concept in different wording.
Hence why I was paraphrasing, because I didnât misrepresent your point.
Are you going to do this on every post now? Do you need me to recite the pledge of allegiance every post too? Say something negative about Barack Obama.
Ok. So itâs information control by the government.
Lol. Yeah ok. Iâm not sure who youâre expecting is going to take seriously the idea that propaganda campaigns werenât invented until decades after the cold war.
No disagreement here; but surely you realize this also means that control of information by a capitalist government isnât the solution.
Just because fascists use propaganda doesnâtâ mean that they invented it or only they use it.
Wow, so youâre not just going to ask this every post, youâre going to ask it multiple times per post. Do you need me to sign a loyalty pledge too? Swear under oath that I am not and have never been a member of the communist party?
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
A strawman is taking someoneâs genuine argument and then distorting or misrepresenting it to make it easier to attack. A strawman argument isnât valid and it isnât paraphrasing. Generally when people paraphrase in good faith, they will ask if they said the paraphrase correctly and will correct themselves if it is incorrect.
They cannot remove just anything, they have to have a legal basis to do so and can be sued, less government control than now.
I said propaganda warfare, meaning online propaganda warfare that started in 2016, a new type of warfare. Obviously.
Again, it is less control than what exists presently already via private companies that would still exist later anyway. We still can advocate for progress even within capitalism and fascism, thatâs how we dig out of both.
Propaganda warfare in my comment is specifically referencing online warfare since 2016, and it is absolutely Putinâs baby.
You did slightly better on this comment in terms of nonsensical spewing, nice
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Iâve got to ask the liberals of this com: are you really not at all uncomfortable that the liberal discourse has descended to the level of the absolute toxic insanity of the above post? Like, honest question, how is this any different to the average MAGA chud at this point?