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LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨5⊠â¨weeks⊠agoI think you need a nap or something, because what you said isnât anything I wrote.
First, the existence of the post office doesnât stop you from using UPS or Fedex. Likewise, a government forum wouldnât stop you from using other forums or social. And the government already got involved in socials like TikTok (deal currently being made), Truth Social, Twitter, and Meta - but because they arenât explicitly OWNED by the government, we donât have the same legal protections and cannot sue for rights that would normally be protected like free speech.
Just like how USPS canât open packages without a warrant, but UPS and Fedex can just open whatever. The government gives you special protections that you can enforce via lawsuits.
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists, because it would be much harder to make sock puppets and bots. FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy, itâs fascism and fascist control of info. We should each get a say, and what we say should stand on merit, not money. We deserve real communication so we can work on issues.
I already explained I love the Russian people, but not their fascist government.
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨5⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Starting with an insult, as all bad faith arguers do.
It is what they call âparaphrasingâ
So who would be moderating this government forum?
It literally is though, certainly under capitalism, at least: propaganda is how you convince people to vote for the policies you want/represent.
Yeah, no one other than fascists have ever engaged in propagandaâŚ
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LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨5⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Define âstrawmanâ and define âparaphrasing.â
You did not paraphrase, you made up an entirely different thing that was never said by me.
Say something negative about Putin.
The government moderates it along with the laws we put into place that protect us. Again, they are already doing this without the laws or transparency via private businesses.
Propaganda WARFARE is new, mostly online, and hasnât been used before 2016. It is NOT democracy to hear a select few peopleâs opinion over and over again.
Capitalism is inherently fascist, see The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal World Order by Gerstle. It cannot be truly democratic due to its inherent fascism, and part of that is the relentless propaganda used during capitalism via commercials, media, etc to sway people from freely consenting and critically thinking. People donât need âpropagandaâ to learn about policies, they can watch town halls, debates, talks, etc, discuss them with each other, and freely exchange ideas. (Doesnât surprise me at all that you are in support of fascist control of info).
Propaganda warfare is literally fascism, made by fascists, to spread fascism.
Hey can you say something negative about Putin?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨5⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Strawman: Misrepresenting someones point as a different, less strong, point. Paraphrasing: Expressing the same concept in different wording.
Hence why I was paraphrasing, because I didnât misrepresent your point.
Are you going to do this on every post now? Do you need me to recite the pledge of allegiance every post too? Say something negative about Barack Obama.
Ok. So itâs information control by the government.
Lol. Yeah ok. Iâm not sure who youâre expecting is going to take seriously the idea that propaganda campaigns werenât invented until decades after the cold war.
No disagreement here; but surely you realize this also means that control of information by a capitalist government isnât the solution.
Just because fascists use propaganda doesnâtâ mean that they invented it or only they use it.
Wow, so youâre not just going to ask this every post, youâre going to ask it multiple times per post. Do you need me to sign a loyalty pledge too? Swear under oath that I am not and have never been a member of the communist party?
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨5⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
A strawman is taking someoneâs genuine argument and then distorting or misrepresenting it to make it easier to attack. A strawman argument isnât valid and it isnât paraphrasing. Generally when people paraphrase in good faith, they will ask if they said the paraphrase correctly and will correct themselves if it is incorrect.
They cannot remove just anything, they have to have a legal basis to do so and can be sued, less government control than now.
I said propaganda warfare, meaning online propaganda warfare that started in 2016, a new type of warfare. Obviously.
Again, it is less control than what exists presently already via private companies that would still exist later anyway. We still can advocate for progress even within capitalism and fascism, thatâs how we dig out of both.
Propaganda warfare in my comment is specifically referencing online warfare since 2016, and it is absolutely Putinâs baby.
You did slightly better on this comment in terms of nonsensical spewing, nice