At least he put up for americas interests instead of lining his own pockets and creating division. And also, who cares? I don’t care if a president fucks like there’s no tomorrow as long as he’s a good president.
This whole “Yeah but JFK” argument sounds an awful lot like “whataboutism” here. JFK is long gone, and even so, people still lauded him as a good president, people dislike Trump more day by day, and he’s a swindling self serving asshole. A couple photos aren’t going to change that opinion for either of them.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net 10 hours ago
To my knowledge none of JFKs affairs were non-consensual, with minors, nor with non-compensated women.
Trump was friends with, and likely using his businesses to help, known child sex traffickers, raped children himself, pissed off his adult prostitutes and brags publicly and privately about his various sexual assaults.
I mean call JFK a whore but adult sex workers and consenting movie stars really aren’t comparable. And who gives a shit about the mob? Let’s not pretend morality aligns with the law. Not all puppies and rainbows but they’re not the same.
And I would say there was a lot of blackmail in the day. They certainly got MLK Jr. and all the JFK women talked, there were even hearings. His scandals weren’t exactly quiet. In fact they were rather well known.
Hector@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I think he put what was it his sister or no daughter into a mental institution to get lobotomized when it was first catching on. I don’t care whom he sleeps with if it is consensual, lobotomizing your daughter because she is an embarrassment as a free spirit is a real piece of shit thing to do.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net 2 hours ago
Absolutely the Kennedys have skeletons in their closet. You’re referring to Rosemary his sister. She was actually institutionalized until her death in my home state. Another fun fact, Stalin’s daughter also died in my home state. We keep all the skeletons in our closet. We also have some of the most notorious serial killers ever.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Right. To your knowledge. Cause he’s 60 years down the hole in an era without the modern scale of muckraker journalism.
Even then, you’re doing a lot of squinting to get passed how many mob employed prostitutes in the 1950s weren’t consenting, much less adults.
I seriously doubt they got everyone given how frequently that man fucked.
The press wasn’t eager to report on a beloved martyred president until 20 years after his death.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net 7 hours ago
I mean you’re absolutely wrong. Muckraker journalism and intelligence was very alive and well in the 60’s and decades following. It’s wild to say otherwise. They all knew and they knew a lot. No one was covering for him raping women or diddling kids. Flat out. Full stop. He wasn’t even known to be particularly deviant, just slutty.
His own socialite wife didn’t shy from making public wry remarks about her husband’s affairs and the public discussed it constantly. And these women’s accounts are very different in tone from the victims of Trump and the eye witness accounts of MEN surrounding Trump about his behavior.
A fuckboy vs a pedophile (potentially incestuous) and multiple-time accused predator are not the same and whataboutism around that is pretty wild. It is a very disingenuous comparison.
JFK was no saint, but he’s nothing to the level of Trump. And Epstein’s child trafficking ring is not the same as the 1950’s and 60’s mob’s prostitution activities. Some families didn’t even dabble in prostitution at all. And you can’t even compare them to today’s mob. Old families even into the 70’s and 80’s had certain standards of conduct. You can’t even start to compare them to modern global traffickers.
Hate on JFK all you want but pretending there’s some magical missing evidence on him is such a stretch and goes against a lot of evidence of his actual conduct. His haters are many and his life is thoroughly documented. Every juicy lead followed to exhaustion in his time and after.
Meanwhile Trump gives even his best buddies the heebie jeebies.