Less than 1% of the world are vegans though. So 99% of people paying that are using it. Quite rare for more things in governance.
We’re all paying for things others benefit from. And yeah, I’m 100% against subsidizing meat. But the reason your food is expensive is because the vegan demographic is considered to be easily over charged for “specialty” overly packaged marketing heavy food products.
Also: people buying organic meatless groceries at Whole Food won’t save the planet. Ever.
But vegans are direct evidence that meat and animal products are not a necessity are purely a choice. That choice is wasteful, has ethical implications towards animals, highly polluting and far less healthy.
So what is the subsidy for? It’s like subsidising candy or alcoholic beverages. It doesn’t make sense anymore with the knowledge of today.
Just because a group of people who have to massively inconvenience themselves and spend four times longer eating their daily calories than someone who gets their protein from meat can do it doesn’t mean that meat is suddenly a “choice” and not necessary.
That’s like saying because some people can ride their bicycles everywhere that cars and public transit are “purely a choice.” You think everyone can live life like you, and have no conceptualization that most of humanity doesn’t live in your location with access to your grocery options and your lifestyle.
That’s before we even get into things like how vegan men often suffer from ED and eating meat virtually instantly cures them. Good luck putting on any muscle as a vegan unless you have no job and can spend all day shoveling buckets if quinoa and lentils down your throat for six straight hours.
I’m not a vegan, but that’s not the right way to think about subsidies. It’s not about whether someone is a “meat eater” or a “vegan”. It’s about incentivizing consumption. The person eating meat once or twice a week subsidizes the person eating meat everyday. The more meat you eat, the more money society pays. Many people would cut back on eating meat if they had to pay the true cost.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The only thing that bothers me about your statement is how much my tax dollars pay to subsidize your stupid meat addiction.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Meat addiction” lol
nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world 1 year ago
You’re right, it’s more like a religion.
ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Less than 1% of the world are vegans though. So 99% of people paying that are using it. Quite rare for more things in governance.
We’re all paying for things others benefit from. And yeah, I’m 100% against subsidizing meat. But the reason your food is expensive is because the vegan demographic is considered to be easily over charged for “specialty” overly packaged marketing heavy food products.
Also: people buying organic meatless groceries at Whole Food won’t save the planet. Ever.
nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world 1 year ago
But vegans are direct evidence that meat and animal products are not a necessity are purely a choice. That choice is wasteful, has ethical implications towards animals, highly polluting and far less healthy.
So what is the subsidy for? It’s like subsidising candy or alcoholic beverages. It doesn’t make sense anymore with the knowledge of today.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Just because a group of people who have to massively inconvenience themselves and spend four times longer eating their daily calories than someone who gets their protein from meat can do it doesn’t mean that meat is suddenly a “choice” and not necessary.
That’s like saying because some people can ride their bicycles everywhere that cars and public transit are “purely a choice.” You think everyone can live life like you, and have no conceptualization that most of humanity doesn’t live in your location with access to your grocery options and your lifestyle.
That’s before we even get into things like how vegan men often suffer from ED and eating meat virtually instantly cures them. Good luck putting on any muscle as a vegan unless you have no job and can spend all day shoveling buckets if quinoa and lentils down your throat for six straight hours.
SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’m not a vegan, but that’s not the right way to think about subsidies. It’s not about whether someone is a “meat eater” or a “vegan”. It’s about incentivizing consumption. The person eating meat once or twice a week subsidizes the person eating meat everyday. The more meat you eat, the more money society pays. Many people would cut back on eating meat if they had to pay the true cost.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Vegetarians don’t benefit.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Cope
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I refuse to cope. I shall instead die of grief. The end.
zepheriths@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because of your indifferent attitude. Your meat will now become more expensive than plant based meat, so you can eat your words