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Comment on Hollow Knight: Silksong Sparks Debate About Difficulty and Boss Runbacks

caseofthematts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

I haven’t gone out of my way. While I haven’t used the word “fun”, I did say I enjoyed most runbacks in Dark Souls as a sort of puzzle. Being downvoted for a subjective opinion is absurd, especially qhen the person I’m responding to also has a subjective opinion. But nice to know my opinion has less value.

Anyway, I don’t really want to go in circles with this since I feel like both sides here have said what they want to say.

I’ll just leave with an example of a mechanic I find unfun and wish would go away, as a sort of olive branch of understanding that opinions are opinions. In Breath of the Wild and similar games, I hate the weapon/item degradation mechanic. I understand their design goals with it, and I understand how removing it from those games would change quite a bit of how they want the game to run, but I’d be much happier if it were to disappear completely.

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ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

I haven’t gone out of my way. While I haven’t used the word “fun”, I did say I enjoyed most runbacks in Dark Souls as a sort of puzzle. Being downvoted for a subjective opinion is absurd, especially when the person I’m responding to also has a subjective opinion.

I think we all know that the up/down votes are people agreeing or disagreeing with you. So having more downvotes than upvotes means that more people disagree with you than agree with you.

Also, if you complain about downvotes, that usually deserves a downvote from me.

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EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It’s only subjective in that it’s not entirely impossible for at least one person out there to enjoy the mechanic. However at the same time there has been a general consensus made that it’s not a good mechanic. Your opinion may be the equal of any one other persons opinion, but what I think you’re not understanding is that is that it’s not the equal of the many opinions of the majority of people. If you expect your one opinion to hold the same value as the collective opinions of everyone else, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.

as a sort of olive branch of understanding that opinions are opinions.

That’s not a great example to your point because the weapon degradation mechanic of BOTW is also widely regarded as a bad mechanic. It’s the most disliked mechanic in that game.

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- caseofthematts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I think I approached the discussion wrong and perhaps wasn’t voicing what I was thinking properly. Regardless, I’m clearly not in the majority of opinion, so I’d like to just bow out of this discussion and wish everyone has the fun that they want to have.
  
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PixxlMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Lemmy is really weird about these kinds of things. The hive has decided your personal feelings towards game design must be punished I guess.

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- AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  “Punished” lmfao
  
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  - CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Also, “hive”.
    
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- caseofthematts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I’ve spoken to others about this subject due to this and none of them have reflected the comments here. I don’t even know most of the people I posed the question to. I suppose this forum (and the forums or social media these poaters frequent) hold their opinion as more of a fact than I was led to believe.
  
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