These are overtones
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Bassman27@lemmy.world 2 days ago
This is why so many people think the St George’s cross has negative undertones
Red5@lemmygrad.ml 2 days ago
Denjin@feddit.uk 2 days ago
These days it’s more like the actual melody.
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That and the fact that the whole concept of flags was born out of a desire to mark territory as “mine” and therefore not to be shared with outsiders.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Not entirely true. Yes flags have always been used when tribes etc go to war.
But historically those same tribes often considered the result of winning a war. To include absorbing the population of the other. Tribe. Or the outsiders.
Many different attitudes towards those outside members have existed with different nations and tribes over time.
Vikings for example were nothing like the image we see in movies etc. those images were created by a single British priest as open properganda,
He is documented as having declared them as stealing UK woman by being over clean and inclusive of their wants and desires. (Paraphrased)
Rome was I little more questionable, but very much encouraged outsiders to join their culture. Not just as slaves. That generally only applied to opposition fighters. And those who refused to see Rome as the authority. But their Class system very much placed Rome born above others. But much like modern western nations. Immigration into Rome for employment as free citizens was very encouraged for those with any usable skills.
JohnSmith@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Thanks for an interesting answer. It baffles me that you are being downvoted.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 days ago
It’s a disgusting fucking revisionist lie, that’s why. The Vikings had a prolific chattel slavery economy, current estimates place it at around 30% of the population, which is about the maximum you can get away with before the slave revolts start winning.
The rights of slaves under it (basically none) are relatively well documented.