Comment on The sheer amount of websites that are completely unusable without JavaScript

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  wild thing is that with modern css and local fonts (nerdfonts, etc), you can make a simple page with a modern grid and nested css without requiring a single third party library or js.

  devs are just lazy.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Devs are lazy but also product people and design request stuff that even modern CSS cannot do

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    devs are just lazy.

    *cost-efficient. At this point it’s a race to the bottom.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      and its not even the devs. its the higher ups forcing them to do shit that won’t work.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yep, burnout-rate increasing, companies favoring quantity over quality.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Have you ever built anything more complex with CSS and HTML5? It is a massive pain

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    • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      if im building something complex im using an actual server side language not a javascript framework

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      • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You use both

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  no fallbacks is bad practice.

  This is how you know they’re extra lazy – no “please enable javascript because we suck and have no noscript version”.

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  • oddspinnaker9295@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It reminds me of flash when it first gained popularity.

    “Please enable flash so you can see our unnecessary intro animation and flash-based interface”

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    people who don't know what graceful degradation is make me sad

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• JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But they’re not pdf/e-pub. I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be mean but people not wanting scripting on their sites are a niche inside a niche, so in terms of prioritising fixing things that’s a very small audience with a very small ROI if done they might require a huge rewrite. It’s just not financially feasible for not much of a reason other than puritan ones.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    More simple websites have some advantages like, less work to maintain, responsivity, accessibility by default.

    Sure, what is already, that is. It starts already at choosing the frameworks.

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• spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Personally, I love server-side rendering, I think it’s the best way to ensure your content works the way YOU built it. However, offloading the processing to the client saves money, and makes sense if you’re also planning on turning it into an electron app.

  I feel it’s better practice to use a DNS that blocks traffic for known telemetry and malware.

  Personally, I used to blacklist all scripts and turn them on one at a time till I had the functionality I needed.

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    please never turn anything into an electron app

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  All modern browsers have Javascript enabled by default. A good dev targets and tests for mainstream systems.

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