You mean the other side that has been building up and supporting these systems that keep them "powerless", even when they have had power? The same side that keeps capitulating and trying to "reach accross the isle"?
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spongebue@lemmy.world 4 days agoSorry, no, you can’t both-sides this one. One side is actively supporting and cheering on all the horrors we’ve seen over the last 7 months, and the other is in the minority and powerless to stop it.
piefood@feddit.online 4 days ago
spongebue@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I mean the side that shouldn’t have to preemptively pass something that says “oh by the way the constitution still requires due process kthxbye” (and if they did, it’s not like that would have stopped anything), got a lot of federal judges confirmed in the last 4 years, and was at least able to get things passed like requiring ICE to allow members of Congress.
Do I wish they did things like codify Roe? Absofuckinglutely. If they changed the rules of the filibuster in the Senate to make that happen, do I fear what they’d justify doing the same over today? Yup. Does this make both sides the same? Hell. No.
CubitOom@infosec.pub 4 days ago
The other side is in the majority, powerless to stop it legally.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Is Gavin Newsom the minority leader in California? Is Eric Adams the minority mayor of New York? When Rep. Tricia Cotham switched parties in the North Carolina State Senate to guarantee Republicans a veto-proof majority against the governor, was she a member of the minority or the majority?
Liberals seem to want to forget the last twenty-five years of Democratic misrule. Every blue state government gets a pass for failing to implement any of the party’s stated goals. Every majority party spends half their time in office trying to explain why you need 60 votes in the Senate to do anything (and even when Dems have 60 votes it isn’t enough), why the Parliamentarian can prevent a majority Congress from delivering low-cost health care or above poverty wages or even a tiny bit of student debt relief.
Meanwhile, the Dem minority’s powers of obstruction are virtually non-existent. McConnell held up Merrick Garland’s conformation for over a year, while Schumer couldn’t bottle up ACB for two months? Republicans can conduct massive gerrymanders of Texas three different times in the last twenty years. They can win the Wisconsin and North Carolina state senates with a meager 40% of the vote, thanks to the district draws. They have minority-majority governments in dozens of states thanks to disenfranchisement and voter caging. But Californians and New Yorkers and Massholes and Washingtonians just sit on their hands? Hell, back in 2012 Andrew Cuomo Helped the Republicans Keep Control of the State Senate
Dems couldn’t deliver themselves two free US Senators and a fist-full of House Reps by making DC a state. Puerto Rico was also up for grabs, twice, only for them to fumble it. They couldn’t mandate mail-in voting back in 2021 when those enormous mail-in ballot advantages handed Joe Biden a landslide win. They couldn’t reform the judiciary when they were staring down a 6-3 permanent Republican court majority. They couldn’t even prosecute an ex-President with 91 outstanding indictments against him. All they could do was sit back and hand him a second term.
Why do you insist on getting played like this, over and over again? You’re backing a Controlled Opposition. A party more interested in legalizing Bitcoin as legal tender and funneling bunker buster bombs to genocidal ethnostates than keeping the lights on at local health clinics or doing dick-all to house our homeless population.
A party of unchecked white collar criminality and criminalized poverty. A party of the police and the bloated military state and of Silicon Valley corruption. A party of mass murder. But hey, they wear rainbow flag lapel pins during pride month (sometimes).
rigatti@lemmy.world 4 days ago
So uhh… what do you suggest we do?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Short quippy answer? Unionize your work place.
Long, more difficult, and more controversial answer? Building Dual Power: Where They Retreat, We Must Advance
But the idea that you can just show up at a booth and hit the “No Fascists” button to make fascists go away is American consumerist brainrot.
Fascism is a consequence of prolonged, flagging, imperial expansion. It isn’t limited to a single party. It’s what happens to surplus military personal when they get mobilized by the excess capital in the private sector.
You fight it by building a community in your neighborhood that is self-reliant and resilient to violence from abroad. You can’t contract some third party to politely ask fascists to leave you alone.
deur@feddit.nl 4 days ago
Literally nobody but you thinks that the more you spam the better your argument is. Cry about it.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
The fun part of Lemmy is it’s quite small and so these names become recognizable. I believe Mr weezel is from a red state, I want to say Texas and all conversations indicate he has fallen hard for the anti democrate propaganda. He’s likely a libertarian (diet republican) but I can’t recall specially, there are a lot of leftist™ on here, aka Tankies.
Both have tha same complaints and the same level of emotional intelligence so it’s really hard to tell them apart despite the ideologies being completely opposites.
Either way, his suggestion will ultimately allow a continued right wing majority.
rigatti@lemmy.world 4 days ago
At this point I agree that the (establishment) Democrats are not willing to push back against the corporate oligarchy, but I would say the only way forward is to push hard for progressive candidates in the primaries – people like Zohran who are so relentless on policies that will help people that the socialist label has no negative effects on their campaigns. And then we hope that they can fight through the obstruction that will inevitably be put up by corporate interests.