How long do you think it takes to log? That would take maybe 5 seconds max unless the ui is horrendous.
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HorreC@lemmy.world 5 days agoyeah but you are pulling their attention for that, logging that is time they are not dealing with children.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
HorreC@lemmy.world 5 days ago
And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each (lets hope they just have to click a button and not add fucking notes to each one) so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up. God forbid its a real winner of a day and every other child is just walking into walls and tripping all over the place. I am sure they need this dumb shit added to their workload.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 5 days ago
so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up
Talking with parents takes far, far, far longer than logging something on your phone or a tablet. How is this idea not just a significantly worse time-sink?
HorreC@lemmy.world 5 days ago
If they are panicking while the child is being picked up and dropped off that kind of environment might not be for them. Also the idea that you think that you interacting with the care giver/parent is a time sink is the reason why I think its dystopian, I would want them to be in full care giver mode at all times and not have to switch to logging corp slave for the few min an hour. I am sure that dumb shit is taxing on them and its just a thing for parents that will require it (god forbid those same parents actually spend any time with those people or look for other things in their childs environment that could help that need this kind of logging. ).
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
… there’s limits to how many children can be watched by a single caretaker, it’s like 7 in most jurisdictions.
You clearly have no experience with this, so why are speaking up?
HorreC@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Not even close to right, fed says it can be 10:1 no more then 16:1 sooo that is still minutes out of each hour. And that is if everything is running smooth and children are anything but smooth. And I am speaking up because again I think its dystopian, I would rather the person in charge of my child TALK TO ME, and we can learn what to expect and want from the relationship then them sitting on phones or tablets logging every last thing my child did. And I must point out that your math is bad, 7x5 isnt 30. If you need precision in your childcare you should strive for it in yourself.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
30 times 5 seconds is 2.5 minutes, and that’s for a stupendously overworked person. Like “CPS call” levels of understaffing at what would be an unlicensed facility.
A more realistic number is under a minute per hour.HorreC@lemmy.world 2 days ago
that is if everything is going to plan and you just have to press the childs button and action, but you also have to get the device at the time to so you should at least add in 5 seconds for that. But again, children are not like this, so the care giver once per hour I am sure is having to type out some dumb thing this human just did, So I would say that 5 min to 10 min is spent on logging and tending the human that fell or freaked out.
howrar@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
They’re spending that time doing diaper changes. They’re not attending to the other kids regardless.
HorreC@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I would think that they dont stack a caregiver that hard with infants and full on running 2+ year olds. But I still would rather them just spend a few min talking to me then having to log shit.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
A few minutes talking to you (and every other parent at pickup) is way, way, waaaaay more time than logging. You say “just,” but your request is at least 10x as expensive.
HorreC@lemmy.world 2 days ago
its your child, you should WANT to talk to these people, they are not robots, you want to know their insights and maybe how the environment and mood of the place is.
howrar@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
We’re just talking about doing a diaper change. I don’t know how you can call that “stacking a caregiver hard”.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 5 days ago
…do you think they aren’t dealing with other children during pickups?
HorreC@lemmy.world 5 days ago
you would think they would have all these other workers that can cover while you talk to the parent. Also I would assume that mgmt is out and about more to help at drop off and pickup.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
So the same doesn’t apply for doing logging, which takes less time?
Also, stuff gets forgotten, with a log done right away, stuff isn’t forgotten. You think as you say one person can remember the issues of 30 different kids?
Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
So, literally the exact same scenario as the logging, except it takes 10-100x as long?
HorreC@lemmy.world 2 days ago
but with human interaction and a back and forth conversation. Also it seems that one friend of mine who has this option at the daycare they use in nashville the caregivers do have a one on one with the parent when picking up. So its not just weird, but also redundant.