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FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They generally don’t mind this

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d like to see their survey results

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Had pet rats for a couple of years. You can tell when they’re unhappy.

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• HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This pic looks like the same from a post people talked about how this is used to transport lab rats around a lab, that it cam be comforting to them, comfy confinment or something. tldr the rat is safe (for a likely lab rat) and this is humane treatment.

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not really. It causes them stress. “Safe” and “Humane” are variable. But it definitely isn’t the “best” restraint method.

    As for example explored by this paper: pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10844733/

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    • HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Noted, thank you…now I need to read these papers to learn the actual “best” method of restraint…even though ive never really seen a mouse in my life and likely never will need to restrain them.

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      • Slowy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For mice it’s tunnel handling, where you just let them walk into a tube and pick them up. You do need to scruff them to hold them for actual procedures and to examine their teeth and stuff, but it’s really stressful for them to be snatched out of their home by the tail.

        For rats it’s just picking them up with your hand over their back and under the armpits and then support the bum with your other hand like you would a kitten or any other small domestic critter. Rats are generally more calm and don’t mind being picked up, mice don’t love it and will jump or run away or bite.

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The rat is safe in that it can’t hurt itself or others, but they feel the same about this kind of confinement as humans do. I guess whether that counts as humane is a matter of opinion.

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• Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Unfortunately this is rather tame compared to the fucked up shit we put ratties through in the name of science.

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know… :(.

    I’m sure some of it is worthwhile. But knowing a couple applied researchers who work in animal labs, according to them a large amount of what is done is absolutely useless and only serves to get out a new useless product TM or publish a paper that looks good.

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