Comment on Anon starts to believe

FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• The_v@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Slight clarification: Dutch Clover (trifolium repens) under nitrogen deficient conditions, at temperatures above 50F and below 95F, and with the correct rhyzobium species present, with soil pH between 5.5 & 8.0, can produce nitrogen that is stored in its tissue.

  When clover is mowed and the clippings mulched back into the soil, the decomposition of the leaves adds nitrogen to the soil. If you remove the clippings the nitrogen goes with it.

  Clover doesn’t just release more nitrogen into the soil, it takes a bit of work.

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  • baduhai@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    50°F = 10°C 95°F = 35°C

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  • PostingInPublic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Interesting, I thought the N would be stored in the little nodules on the roots? For other legumes you’re supposed to cut them of, not pull them out, so that the roots with their nodules remain and release the N during the rotting process. Is this bullshit?

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    • The_v@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The nodules in the roots are the happy little homes that the plant provides for the bacteria to grow and reproduce in.

      It’s the production location, not the storage location. The nitrogen is incorporated into proteins and used all over the plant. It’s especially concentrated in legume seeds.

      For example winter peas can produce up to 400lbs/acre of nitrogen during its growing season (newer varieties like Icicles etc). If you removed the top and the seeds you remove around 350-375lbs of N. So you get 25-50lns of N per acre if you leave just the roots. So it’s best to incorporate the entire plant in when the seeds reach soft dough stage.

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    • mobotsar@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Iirc, it’s stored all over the plant. Any bits left on/in the ground will contribute to nitrogen in the soil.

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  • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    When clover is mowed and the clippings mulched back into the soil, the decomposition of the leaves adds nitrogen to the soil. If you remove the clippings the nitrogen goes with it.

    Yes, “green manure” is taking nitrogen fixing crops (like clover and beans and peanuts) and to mulch them while still green, and incorporate that decomposing mulch into the soil you’re using. That adds nitrogen in fewer steps than the traditional way of using animal manure (where the nitrogen still ultimately comes from plants).

    Of course, the modern Haber process also fixes nitrogen through industrial chemistry rather than agriculture, so most commercial fertilizer today gets its nitrogen from chemical synthesis of atmospheric nitrogen into ammonia.

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• Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I plant it in the walkways of my vegetable garden. Besides fixing nitrogen, it makes the Bees happy, and it’s tasty in salads and mixed greens.

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  • drasglaf@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Image

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    • Imadethis@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And here I thought sticking mine on the side of my house was the way to go…

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  • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Oh, and it’s super satisfying to walk on in barefeet

    Unless you happen upon one of those bees.

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    • Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      “I suddenly remembered my Charlemagne. Let my armies be the rocks and the trees and the birds in the sky. Bees in the Clover”

      I have my own Bee army, we would never hurt each other .

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    • onslaught545@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Having been stung on the sole of my foot by a bee, I 100% don’t recommend it.

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