No reason survival horror has to include fighting back. Plenty of games don’t involve anything more in that area than a distraction to keep you alive a moment longer.
Comment on A Hellraiser video game. What do you all think?
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
survival horror action game
Yeah, no.
Hopefully it is just a case of buzz words and not an actual genre description. But the fundamental nature of the Cenobytes is that you can’t fight back against them. All you can really do is endure the psychological harm (because you aren’t enduring the physical) while sacrificing others and trying an end run to the lament configuration.
Survival Horror/Action inherently involves fighting back. And that undermines so much of what makes Hellraiser Hellraiser (even in a lot of the horrible ones).
I DO think a point and click adventure game would work perfectly. I would… probably not play an Alien Isolation but I do think that would also be a fit (I got my fill of hiding in lockers back with Penumbra/Amnesia). But the moment we have ANY way of fighting back… meh.
Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 day ago
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 day ago
Just because you can’t kill them doesn’t mean you can’t fight back against them. Resident Evil 3 had the big dude that you couldn’t usually kill chasing you the whole game. Same with 9 and the giant vampire mommy that AFAIK, you can’t kill at all except maybe in the finale. But you can slow them down, and there are things other than those to fight.
Etterra@discuss.online 1 day ago
You’re right for the wrong reasons. It wouldn’t be survival horror because it would be the worst, most vile horror dating sim imaginable. Then Steam would delist it because payment processors caved into a small group of Australian moral crusading nutcases.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Haven’t there been many Cthulu Mythos games? I’m sure they’re able to find veins of storytelling that have some big reveals, but don’t necessarily conclude with successfully defeating the Cenobites.
There could also be secondary antagonists tangentially related to them, right? I thought the antagonist for most of the first Hellraiser was some other kind of disciple that got cast out.
Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The trailer makes it seem like there will be “lesser” demons or creatures we may fight, but if a Cenobite knows we’re there, we’re fucked.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Which is a problem the movies themselves increasingly did by having cannon fodder cenobites to add action or a sense of hope.
Hellraiser, at its best, is about despair and helplessness where the only way out is to destroy your own humanity.
Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean sure, but you gotta break up the monotony sometimes.
Even the recent Call of Cthulhu game broke up its slow story segments with a few action scenes.