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LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• fishos@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Someone else posted what it means. It means 10m² living space per person, 4 people share 20m² for bathroom and kitchen, you don’t eat meat, you wash tops every ~3 days and bottoms every ~14 days(laundry is shared with ~20 people). Something like 4 people are expected to share a laptop with specs that were cutting edge 15 years ago.

  It is a MAJOR downgrade from how most people live, even those in poverty, and is just not appealing to all but the most minimalist of people.

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  • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s also ignoring the fact that we have already surpassed the limitations of what the nitrogen cycle could normally provide. So we would still be relying on fertilizers produced with fossil fuels.

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    • fishos@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Absolutely.

      Also, whenever I see “humans only really need X” I always think of Bill Gates saying no one will ever need more than 640kb of RAM. Sure, today no one will, but tomorrow someone who was held back by that previous number will see the new number and be able to complete a new task and suddenly that will be the new “baseline”. A 1.4mb floppy used to store dozens/hundreds of text files. Now a .jpeg takes up more space. You can’t just settle on some number without commiting to becoming left behind as things progress.

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  • astutemural@midwest.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well, thanks for sharing misinformation.

    Meanwhile, in the actual study (provided free via any search engine of your choice):

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    Also directly from the study you didn’t read:

    “It is important to understand that the DLS represents a minimum floor for decent living. It does not represent a an aspirational standard and certainly does not represent a ceiling. However, it is also a level of welfare not currently achieved by the vast majority of people. A new paper by Hoffman et al finds that 96.5 percent of people in low- and middle-income countries are deprived of at least one DLS dimension.”

    So no, nobody is coming to take your gaming rig, and no, the majority of people on Earth would get an UPGRADE in living conditions, not a downgrade.

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    • fishos@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So you’re a condescending asshole. That’s all. I’m not gonna engage with you further. Have a day as wonderful as yourself.

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• Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I recommend reading the image to find the source

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• ji59@hilariouschaos.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There is a soudce where the text was taken from at the bottom.

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thank you, dumb me missed it. Their paper talks a lot about measuring poverty. Earlier research showed poverty in China being high in the 80s under socialism and decreasing in the 90s when they became more capitalist. But their formulas for calculating that involved the prices of all consumer goods, including things like airline tickets, cars, big TVs, etc. But If you ignore the prices of things poor people never buy, the math shows very low poverty in the 80s going up dramatically in the 90s, because introducing more capitalism brought down the cost of middle-class and luxury goods but increased the cost of rice etc.

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