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Comment on Two men behind ‘senseless’ felling of Sycamore Gap tree jailed for more than four years

bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

4 years!

Of course it’s fucked up and whatever, but this feels like a populist sentence. 4 years is an incredible long time. In what way is this adequate for the crime. Like mentioned before, there is incredible damage being done to nature in the name of business, very rarely somebody is getting a little bit of blowback, and these two guys, who really don’t have much potential to destroy anything more are sent away as an example? To whom? The generally misbehaving public?

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NickwithaC@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

In what way is this adequate for the crime

What is the maximum sentence for damage of public property?

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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Cool yeah, let’s have short sentences for destroying cultural landmarks. I’m sure that’ll be fine.

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- wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They shouldn’t be inside at all. We don’t have the prison space to spend on things like this. It should be dealt with in the community.
  
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  - TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I.e. translating to no real punishment. For permanently destroying a historically significant site.
    
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  - neonred@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Then make space. Start at the upper end until there is space enough.
    
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    wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    We already jail more than France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland. We’re about 40% more than the nearest one of those which is France. Several of them we’re 2-3x more per capita.
    
    We put too many people in prison. We’re not on American levels, but it’s still too many.
    
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  - Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    How, exactly, would one do that? Especially considering these men seem to have no community spirit whatsoever?
    
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  - zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Get then in the stocks to be pelted by tomatoes by the community
    
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    wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Not quite what I was thinking, but better than 4 years a piece.
    
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Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This was deliberate, planned, and done purely to destroy something others enjoyed.

I’d say it’s about right.

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- Berstrrs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Is building a housing estate on a green belt or a park not deliberate, planned, and done purely to destroy something others enjoyed?
  
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