Aside from the CP, that is how it was back in the day and how it should be. And no it wasn’t all spam. It’s just that the spam was obvious. Today though the spam is the Internet. Go look at marvel or any sub Reddit, the product are the people, the spam is the site itself being sold to companies. We need freedom to post unsavory things so that these companies no longer want to risk selling their product between videos of jelly arms and someone training their dog to do Nazi salutes. We need to post that stuff in protest to get back to what we were
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Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 18 hours agoNope, no you wouldn’t. If you want to see the example of unmoderated community, go to whatever new 4chan incarnation is. You will see child pornography, nazis recruiting children with badly fried memes, dead people, parts of dead people, characters from popular japaneese cartons involved in the depraved shit, and spam, so much spam, so much spam you couldn’t even believe this much spam is possible.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 25 minutes ago
Also, “Aside from the CP” doesn’t exist. In your unmoderated utopia you can’t just put this aside as if it doesn’t exist, you have to deal with it. Or be OK with it, like you’re OK with everything else.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 hours ago
You will see child pornography, nazis recruiting children with badly fried memes, dead people, parts of dead people, characters from popular japaneese cartons involved in the depraved shit, and spam
Aside from the CP, that is how it was back in the day and how it should be.
So you’re okay with nazis recruiting children with badly fried memes, dead people, parts of dead people, characters from popular japaneese cartons involved in the depraved shit, and spam?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Yea I don’t care. I lived it. Something about that environment also creates great moments. Unlike today. Plus things have never been worse and all we have is constant moderation. For every “good moderator” the bad ones have caused echo chambers and rifts that have created extremism
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 26 minutes ago
That doesn’t reflect good on you, you know. Nothing of it does.
S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
I disagree you’re looking at it with Rose tinted glasses. The problem with mods is that it is almost paradoxical a good mod is barely seen keeping the community well oiled and functional. Almost always a mod gets known is because of a fuckup.
There must be a balance between the freedom to post anything and keeping the line of the community. Is so frigging hard I don’t blame ppl for hating modwork.Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
The spam isn’t just for things that are savory. The spam can be for unsavory things, propagandizing, griefing, or advertising outright illegal things.
I don’t want to have to wade through a shit ton of nazi bullshit or ads for whatever is the silk road replacement nowadays in order to take a beat after work to read shitposts. Dealing with inane stupidity shouldn’t be the bar for what people have to put up with to interact with each other.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
You act like everywhere was like that. We had no rules and it was never like that. You had to go out and specifically look for it like liveleaks
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 27 minutes ago
You know why it wasn’t like that everywhere? Because some places had good moderation. It was like that since the days of FIDO. If there was a good community, it was good because they didn’t allow bad shit to exist in their community.
If you think spez invented moderators to sell you coca cola, or whatever, you either don’t know how shit works, or do and just secretly want to wipe treads with guro.Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 56 minutes ago
Because not as many people were on the internet, the technological and social landscape is completely different today compared to twenty years ago.
Moderation has also pretty much always been part of the internet in some degree, I don’t believe that the internet being enshittified has nearly as much to do with the presence of moderation, good or bad, as it does with fundamental problems with the constant monetization inherent in capitalism and the adaption of social media influence and recruitment strategies by the far right.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 hours ago
There was a decentralized Reddit clone someone posted recently and I was excited to check it out. Sure enough, racist shit.