Not really, but it sounds like your family should rather sell that cabin and spend their money on more importsbt things.
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Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks agoMy extended family in Michigan keeps a hunting cabin that they split costs between 5 people on and can still barely make the mortage… Is that clearly able to afford more taxes?
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
chocrates@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
I know for the public good this is the right answer but this is not a winning strategy
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Or if housing costs were reigned in via this measure would the costs they are burdened with that make it barely feasible for 5 families to split the mortgage cost on a hunting cabin in a remote rural area be alleviated. Granting them more financial freedom, benefiting society all while still keeping the place thats becoming nearly untenable for them due to outrageous real estate markets?
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
They can barely split it because they’re all broke af not because the house is expensive. The house and land are pretty cheap
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yes and housing costs still take the largest chunk of low income people’s income. This wouldnt only effect the costs associated with the cabin but also their main residence’s taxes as well. Collected taxes might be used to improve public infrastructure and benefit programs which could also alleviate some of their expenses, giving them more ability to afford the cabin and have spending potential in other areas of their life. It’s not a zero sum game.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
I’d sacrifice your family’s hunting cabin if it helps house more people. Find a sixth person or something.
It’s an edge case that shouldn’t hold up societal progress.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The added tax revenue would also make the rural places these vacation home are in more sustainable for regular residents. And probably keep local governments and even small hospitals solvent.
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It might even alleviate the financial burdens that are making that situation almost untenable for them now as real estate markets are corrected and added tax revenue gets allocated into public benefits that could reduce the cost of living. They may benefit from the proposal even if tax rates get increased on subsequent properties.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
No, it shouldn’t hold up societal progress. But not being aware of how your policies actually affect people is just plain bad. I agree with progressive taxes on multi house ownership, but you also need to understand that will mean people who are less rich than you think losing them, it’s not just people that can afford them
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Or does the correction in housing pricing lower their actual taxes paid in total on their main properties, granting them more breathing room, allowing them to comfortably afford the hunting lodge even if the rate itself has increased? You’re expecting everything else to remain the same and just increased tax rates as a whole. Something like this would readjust the market values of properties and the subsequent tax being paid while making sure those corporations hoarding properties are taxed appropriately and providing inventory into a market that would bring pricing back down to earth. The rate could be increased but total paid could be lowered in these cases of second homes so long as tax increase is exponential and not flat on additional properties. The goal of measures like this would be to make companies hoarding thousands of properties an untenable option not to hurt every person who might look into having a second or third property.
LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Here’s a thought, maybe instead of blindly following the original commenters idea and repeatedly posting the same thing, refine the idea to account for people the “fringe” case mentioned?
Maybe, in addition to the multiple house ownership and residence status conditions add one that factors in income/earnings (including any capital gains) and if you exceed a threshold then additional home taxes apply?
Maybe scale the additional taxes based on income/earnings so everyone is taxed but done so appropriately for their situation?
Or maybe adopt a system like some other countries have where the first house you own isn’t taxed but additional homes are, then adjust other taxes in accordance? Under this system 5 families sharing a hunting cabin is not only easier for them but more economic and efficient than five families owning five separate cabins.
You’ll never please everybody but laws and regulations should take into account all those they effect and serve the greatest number reasonably possible.