what precisely do you think robots exist for?
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kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You are ofc aware that even if we successfully get rid of capitalism, we can’t get rid of having to work, right?
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 days ago
They don’t, not in the way you are implying
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
what are you on about? ever look at a modern factory? they’re filled with robots that do enough work to replace 10 people.
obviously under capitalism this work just goes into making rich people richer, which is why we need to get rid of capitalism so these fancy robots we’ve built can actually let us live chill lives with minimal required human labour.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In order to replace all work you would need generic purpose robots, hence my line about what you are implying.
Even with all the automation we have now, people still work.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
We do not exist in a world with technology sufficient to entirely eliminate labor. Even highly automated industry like in the PRC, labor-power is still paramount for production. A transition to socialism can allow us to better direct production consciously, rather than letting the eldritch god capital decide everything based on profitability, but we will not be able to eliminate labor, only center it, rather than capital.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 day ago
To pass butter.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
But the way we work could change.
TheBeege@lemmy.world 2 days ago
This is the winner for me.
I’m a manager, and I do my best to make things fulfilling, productive, physically and psychologically safe, and minimally stressful. I’m not the capitalist, so I don’t have full control. But if those of us closer to the ground try to make the way we work more bearable, it can have an impact on the immediate surroundings.
But yeah, we do need to fix the overarching system, since we don’t have full control in this one.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Right. Like, we’d still need to build houses, but it could be a thing you do with your friends for fun, because building stuff is fun and if it wasnt, kids wouldnt play with legos or sand castles. Then you watch/help the new residents move in. Maybe compete in a local construction crew league if you still need hierarchy and ego motivation.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Hell you could still have specialists even, just instead of it being Steve who only knows how to build cookie cutter housing it’s Irish who is obsessed with mid 200s Hispano-Roman architecture. Or maybe it’s both of them working in harmony to create something truly horrifying.