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• whostosay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yeah, turned me off to science at that age too which sucks because I was pretty into it.

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    in case you still care: the periodic table is arranged primarily by the chemical properties of its elements (mainly electronegativity, i.e. how much energy it takes to add/remove an electron to/from the atom) and also by their mass.

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    • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Huh? It’s sorted by number of electrons/protons (atomic number) the mass is dependent on that and the number of neutrons.

      The eight main groups are based on the number of electrons missing for the atom to reach a full valence shell. Once it is full (8th group, noble gasses) it starts a new Period (row). I’m not sure how the other groups are chosen (probably some quantum physics that I never had in chemistry class). After looking it up Wikipedia says it just keeps going that way.

      Electronegativity describes how much it “wants” to attract negative charges and doesn’t affect the order (Flourine has the highest and is in group 7). I think you may have confused it with ionization energy which would certainly match my understanding of the top half of the periodic table and probably does work for the lower half too now that I think about it.

      The groups tend to have similar properties but that is not why they are sorted that way. Hydrogen for example is quite different from other elements in group one. The colours are probably better for finding common properties.

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      • brisk@aussie.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Have a look through the history section. The concept of periodicity substantially predates the quantisation of the atom. The modern table certainly considers atomic orbitals to be key, but the groups were absolutely created based on common properties.

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    • whostosay@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I do friend, I ended up looking into a few years later/have other teachers explain it but I never had that spark about it again

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