Comment on Perpetual motion eludes us again.

southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  they come from the ground so they have gravity in them

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• Sprondar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Miracles

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• theUwUhugger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t think the other guy really explained it, its basically an atom with such a subatomic structure where the positive protons are capable of exerting stronger force on one side while the negative electrons on the other! The whole deposit is made up of atoms facing the same way!

  www.coolmagnetman.com/images/maghow23.jpg

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  • reliv3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh boy, this is very incorrect, because it sounds like you are attempting to explain magnetism with electrostatic forces. Here is a basic model which separated the difference between the two:

    1. Electrostatic forces are caused be the electric field. Something produces an electric field simply by having an unbalanced charge. Positive attracts negative, negative repels negative, positive repels positive.

    2. Magnetic forces are caused by the magnetic field. Something produces a magnetic field by having an unbalanced charge AND is moving.

    This is when trying to explain how solid magnets work, we focus on the electrons because electrons are charged particles that are always moving. So they produce both an electric field (being charged) and a magnetic field (being a moving charged system).

    Technically the higher post is correct, any solid has the capability of being a magnetic, but this takes an incredible amount of physics work where iron is special. Iron’s electrons are able to easily maintain a synchronous orbit with each other which results in the magnetic force being observable at a macroscopic scale (seeing iron magnets pull on each other). In most other materials, the electrons orbits are chaotic, so even though magnetic fields are still being produced by their electrons, the lack of order results in no magnetic force being observable on the macroscopic scale.

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    • theUwUhugger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Did you use ai to form that? No human has ever, ever written that magnetic force causes magnetic; nor electrostatics force causes an electric field…

      No, electrostatic fields is caused by stationary charges

      I don’t dare imagine what you think an unbalanced charge is, but a moving electric charge is enough to cause a magnetic field.

      ‘It takes incredible amounts of physics work to get something’… You know, ai used to worry me quite a bit but comments like yours calm my soul! We are thankfully not there yet where it’s actually would be capable of replacing hack squat!

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lol you weren’t kidding… The full sentence is even worse:

        Any solid system has the capability of being a magnet, but this takes an incredible amount of physics work where iron is special.

        I kind of hope a human didn’t write that…

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      • reliv3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not AI. I’m in academia, so I write academically.

        I specify “physics work” to mean physic’s definition of work (dot product between Force and Displacement).

        And to not connect the importance between the electric and magnetic field as it pertains to the the electrostatic force and magnetic force reveals your basic under of the physics. Hence, why you prior comment was so problematic…

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