Comment on Spidey Senses
lars@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days agoancient lizard brain
I’m with you 100% spiders-wise but wonder if it’s cultural rather than lizard-brained. If I had a kid whom I could convince
then would this kid be down with spiders’ company?
i think it’s instinctive to go “OH FUCK” when something of sufficient size skitters about, but not instinctive to specifically hate spiders
and it doesn’t matter what the skittery thing is, if a mouse scurries across my floor i’m gonna get spooked too, and i think mice are cute!
I see mice outside and I’m like “awwwwwwwww”.
I hear about people seeing spiders inside and my pulse rate rises.
Yeah, I also think its cultural and not an instinct. We don’t have screens on the windows, so letting spiders roam freely means I don’t get flies, which are objectively worse to cohabitate with.
Iapetus@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
Nah, my mother loved spiders and we somehow regularly had fucking massive house spiders crawling around on the ceiling of the house when I was growing up. I swear she must have been bringing them into the house at one point or something, we definitely had a well above average amount of spiders for a good few years there.
There was only ever one at a time though, that I ever saw anyway, but they were those really big, hairy bastards that you can count the legs off from across the room and don’t look like they’re supposed to live in England.
Fast too, so fast, and eerily silent as they skittered, with too many angles protruding from their fat bodies. If you couldn’t see them so starkly outlined against the white ceiling, you’d never even know they were up there, and they’d cross the room in less time than it took you to walk there yourself.
My mum thought they were cool though and called them all Boris and she’d talk to them like they were bloody cats. Mad woman.
I am (thank fuck) not my mother and shit scared of most spiders*. My mothers’ behaviour did not impact my perfectly rational fear of potentially dangerous creatures crawling around my house. I know giant house spiders aren’t dangerous to humans, but plenty of other big spiders around the world are and I don’t think it’s wise to try desensitise human children to this, especially as more and more species now will be migrating due to climate change.
*Jumping spiders are cool, I like those ones. They’re surprusingly smart, and cute, and they’ve even evolved a vegetarian amongst them.
remon@ani.social 2 days ago
There is actually not a lot of them, really just a handful of species per continent (out of 53.000). It’s much easier to learn about the few medical significant spiders in your area and be cool to all the spiderbros.
Iapetus@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
Be cool to all animals, killing them is not OK.
But also, common house spider spreads antibiotic-resistant bacteria to humans, study finds, so maybe don’t be so blasé about letting them live in your house?
remon@ani.social 2 days ago
Alright, I tracked down the original source (no links provided in the news article …) and it seems they do mean the noble false widow when they say “common house spider”. Which I guess is technically correct, because it’s a common spider to find in your home (in the UK, Ireland and California, that is).
Anyway, the actual article is quite interesting and above my paygrade as an amateur enthusiast. The first thing that stood out to me was that they said “In addition to their medically significant venom”, refering to Steatoda nobilis. That is not what is widley accepted amonst arachnologists.
So I forwarded it to a friend who is a proper, published arachnologist. He immedietly replied with “Oh, yeah, the Dunbar study”. It seems to be kind of a one-off study so far (there are very few properly documented bites to begin with). By the professional called the study “valuable” but also said that he was “sceptical to the interpretation”.
I would add that bites from Steatoda (and Theridiidae in generall, which includes black widows) are very rare and quite easy to avoid. They are very stationay spiders and can stay their entire live in a single web (the females. Males will wander around during mating season, but even amongst the black widows, only the mature females are considered medically significant).
I’ll still happily have Steatoda spiders in my flat with not worries. I know them, they’re cool.
remon@ani.social 2 days ago
Uff … this article. Talking about a common house spider, showing a picture of a noble false widow but labeling it a black widow … I’m gonna disect that in a minute, wait for my next reply.