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lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Kuori@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  doesn’t mean crackers are off the hook for centuries of theft

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  • HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mf’kin crackahs be trippin and shit.

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• BoxedFenders@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do you REALLY think a minority ethnic group in say, Nigeria, would rather have their artifacts locked away in London under the stewardship of Anglos rather than displayed in Lagos where they can at least visit it?

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  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I didn’t say that, how do people read that into my comment? I was giving additional context that it is not enough to bring it anywhere into the country. Sure, keeping it in London is worse, I never said it’s better.

    Many anti-colonial activists will point out that the modern day governments are the collaborators from back then and still they get the reparations and artifacts. Sure, keeping them in London is worse, I never defended that.

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    • BoxedFenders@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My bad. But you can see how your comment reads like a whataboutism, right?

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• pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So it’s better to keep it somewhere thousands of kilometres away where they’ll never be able to see it as compared to having difficulty seeing it?

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  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I never said it’s better to keep it but it’s not enough to bring it somewhere in the country. Countries are a social construct so instead of focusing on boarders, bring it directly to the cultural heirs. Of cause keeping it is worse. If the capital is too far away, why would London be better?

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    • pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Of cause keeping it is worse. If the capital is too far away, why would London be better?

      Exactly. We agree there then.

      Countries are a social construct so instead of focusing on boarders, bring it directly to the cultural heirs.

      I think this tricky. Usually, I think the Cultural heritage belongs to the countries from where the artifacts were taken, so that’s where the artifacts should be returned to. Otherwise, How do you decide who to give an artifact to? Most inhabitants of central America share Mayan ancestry, and they no longer follow the maya religion.

      I guess it’s a case to case basis. I am sure the rare cases in which there is a dispute it should be left upto the countries or institutions that claim the artifact to arbitrate.

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• Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So a museum in Western Europe or the US is better, or just as bad?

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  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s worse, obviously. It’s not enough to bring it into the country but it’s worse to keep it in Western Europe or the US. You could argue that once it’s in the capital it won’t travel anywhere closer to the people but when it stays in London or Berlin, it’s not moving anywhere. On the other hand, once you ship it to the country of origin, you can take the extra mile and bring it to the cultural heirs. But keeping it is the worst option.

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    • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re right, and I was being facetious.

      You responded well and explained it for all. Thank you.

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