Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
This is extra funny because the first time a pride event was added people were protesting and spamming “we pay no gay” seems the culture has shifted.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
This is extra funny because the first time a pride event was added people were protesting and spamming “we pay no gay” seems the culture has shifted.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think it’s that the world has changed into having fractured multiple cultures.
In the 80s/90s being gay was considered by general society to be an insult. If you’re under 25, the concept of something being negative being called “gay” as the standard insult just sounds made up.
But people who are 40 years old may remember being in school, and you got a D on a quiz. Your buddy might say “You got a D? That’s gay.”
Had nothing to do with actual homosexuality. It’s just that’s what society was. Being gay wasn’t accepted, and it was cool and trendy to hate on gays to the point that it wasn’t questioned if you called anything bad “gay”.
It’s impossible to place an exact date on when the culture changed, because it likely changed at different times for different regions. I assume California was the first to change.
I first noticed the shift in pop culture around 2003. There was a russian pop singer duo/band called tatu. Terrible music, but they kissed in their one hit wonder music video.
The reactions I saw on MTV were people saying they were brave for being openly gay. Whereas if it would have happened in the 80s, I’m sure they’d have gotten death threats.
And I STILL see people who don’t accept gay people.
So society is now fractured on what popular belief is. Now it’s more like several circles, who all have different views. As opposed to one giant unified viewpoint, with those not conforming left on the outside in the underground.
Because that’s just one topic. There’s other people who are ok with gay people, but not ok with trans. So thats another circle. Now imagine every single viewpoint which has a counter viewpoint.
Whereas in the 80s, something like 92% of the vote went towards reagan, and everybody conformed to the preapproved normal viewpoints. We don’t do that anymore. We each find our own meaning of normal.
Now me personally, I don’t find giving a nazi salute to be normal. But you’ll still find herds of people defending musk. You’ll also find people like me who say fuck musk, and fuck any self identifying nazi. So, another example of how different people are now in different circles.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Yeah, 43 here, went to school with a kid who’s parents must have been from the 19th century, and named him Gaylord. Holy shit, I left that school after middle school, but I would honestly not be surprised if he killed himself.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Holy shit…being named “Gaylord” in the 80s/90s as a kid?
Fuck.
R.I.P. Gaylord.
May your bullying been short and merciful.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
he tried to go by his middle name, but was only able to convince a small number of people to call him that.
Horsey@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Nope, that designation goes to Massachusetts. First state to enact gay marriage and never had a prop 8 pass as late as 2008. California was a red state, redder than Florida is now, until very recently.
HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I will not accept All the Things She Said slander
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 23 hours ago
The meaning of the word Gay has shifted a lot in different directions over the decades. Way, way back “gay” had the meaning of joyful and fun, without any form of connotation to sexuality. Just as a addition to your text, please don’t read it in any kind of negative meaning.
sprite0@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
tatu was a masterclass in queerbaiting
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Society is always fractured in a shift of values. More extreme examples are women rights in most third-world countries and christ/islamic values vs. secularism.
boonhet@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
Unrelated rant following:
Back in around 2002-2003 as I started becoming cognitive enough to appreciate different artists and styles, I didn’t have Internet at home (Eastern Europe yay), but we had a couple of non-local TV channels somehow. One being VIVA (the German channel, not the UK one), which at some time of day just played the week’s top 100 hits for Germany, many of which were one hit wonders. Tatu was one of them, though they were more of a 1.5 hit wonder (they’re not gonna get us was half a hit compared to the big one).
This was wonderful, because it got me hearing all kinds of music as a 7 year old that I normally wouldn’t have. Where the hell else was I going to hear The Rasmus - In The Shadows, a bunch of songs by Eminem, and then suddenly Las Ketchup Song? Or for something way less commonly known: Travel Time by Starsplash
echodot@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Of course there’s always being Nazi apologists and equally there’s always been people who are just incapable of moving with the times. That’s not a new thing that’s always been the case.