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Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 days agoIf you weren’t there, what you mean is you haven’t been shown any American flags in the protests.
https://bsky.app/profile/ddayen.bsky.social/post/3lr7cw5wlas2j
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/immigration-protests-threaten-to-boil-over-in-los-angeles
Anyone who thinks there needs to be more American flags at the protests is welcome to bring them along with themselves. But sitting here criticizing the people actually off their ass and trying to protect democracy and their neighbors is bullshit.
Further, the right is literally never going to see resistance to Trump positively. Anyone who has been on the Fox News drip for the past 20 years is so unhinged that living in California is a crime to them. Asking people whose neighbors and family members have been kidnapped by the federal government to hide their heritage in their protests because it might offend people that already hate them and want them gone is ridiculous. At least if you want to keep those people as allies.
CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Are they trying to protect democracy, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 days ago
“Are these anti-Nazi protestors holding up a Star of David trying to protect democracy in Germany, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?”
🤡
CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right? 🤡 indeed.
lowleekun@ani.social 3 days ago
No they don’t. We don’t have half of the nationalist zeal you guys sport. Please refrain from talking about topics you do not know shit about.
belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
No. I didn’t.
Because they don’t. German Flags are usually shown at the Nazi or right wing rallies, not at anti-fascist rallies.
nysqin@feddit.org 3 days ago
You do know that when Germans use the German flag when protesting they commonly support Nazis causes, right?
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You really have no clue how much American “patriotism” is looked down upon on this side of the pool, do you? Nationalism is a nazi thing, no one who opposes nazis here would use a national flag.
4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
Germans against Nazis wouldn’t use the German flag. If you brought one to the protest you’d probably be considered an intruder from the Nazi side
turmoil@feddit.org 2 days ago
If you’d bring a German flag to an anti-nazi rally, people will look at you weird. At more radical ones, you’ll get smacked by a guy carrying an “Antifaschistische Aktion” flag.
Halosheep@lemm.ee 2 days ago
It’s heartwarming to see all the people from German instances show up to roast this dude.
LordOsslor@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Really? Which Protests do you mean? The vast majority of German flags I saw on anti Nazi demos in Germany were been mounted to Buildings or the hands of some Nazi Idiot at the counterprotest.
Going one step towards the center of the political spectrum from the firmly left learning anti Nazi Demos, there are the anti AFD Demos which also attract(ed) people with far more moderate centrist political views than the average Antifa member, thus being more likely to support the idea of the state of Germany in its current form. Still, most flags you’d see were for pride / lgbtq+ or political organisations.
You might see a German flag from time to time but i think it’s just plain wrong to call it common.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
How is protesting for their family and neighbors (weird you left that one out, you don’t have to be related to someone kidnapped to protest) from having their rights guaranteed to them by the Constitution not protecting democracy?
Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 3 days ago
LOL WUT? What in earthly green fuck are you on about now? Nobody ever claimed this, so not only are you straw-manning NOT saying something, you’re ALSO straw-manning words that were never said in the first place.
You build up being the victim because I didn’t include some special case that you wanted me to, and then pretend that I’m some righty? lol
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Do you actually need me to lead you around by the nose and explain to you that American citizens can hold a Mexican flag in protest?