Ah, so now we’ve arrived at the part of the conversation where you start yelling “quisling” like a drunk history major trying to sound profound in a Reddit flame war. Look, if you’re going to throw around World War II analogies, maybe at least get the dynamics right. No one’s defending collaboration with fascists—we’re pointing out that trying to get a powerful oligarch with control over key infrastructure to behave responsibly is not the same as praising or submitting to him. You can hate someone’s guts and still be forced to deal with them when they’ve wormed their way into controlling satellites, manufacturing, and public discourse. That’s not “toadyism,” that’s a sign of how broken and lopsided the system is.
What’s hilarious is how fast you flipped the script. First, you accuse Democrats of warming to Musk—then when I point out they actually see him as dangerous but are forced to deal with him, you spin that as betrayal anyway. So which is it? Do they love him, or are they spineless for working with someone they distrust? You can’t even hold your own narrative steady for five minutes.
And let’s not pretend you’re some paragon of ideological purity here, lobbing insults from the moral high ground. You’re doing the online version of smashing your toy soldiers together and declaring victory with a word like “quisling” while completely missing the point. No one here worships Elon. I literally said I’d laugh if Tesla crashed and Elon got roasted, and you still managed to accuse me of “defending” him. If you think that’s defending, maybe you need to reset your sarcasm meter—or just your whole personality.
Anyway, go ahead and shout into the void some more. I’m sure the ghosts of the Third Reich are super impressed with your vocabulary.
Look, I get the centrist impulse to browbeat anyone to your left. I get that you see a rich nazi’s money. I get that you want his money by any means, and know the easiest way to get it is to collaborate, but if you’re gonna collaborate with nazis, you’d best get used to being compared to vidkun. Democrats don’t take an evil person’s money and then be like “sucker!” and run off with it and work contrary to that person’s interests. They stay bought. Just like they did with netanyahu and his genocide. That must not happen again here.
No one’s defending collaboration with fascists—we’re pointing out that trying to get a powerful oligarch with control over key infrastructure to behave responsibly is not the same as praising or submitting to him.
You’re defending collaboration with nazis in particular. You’re claiming that trying to get a wealthy nazi to give you donations is responsibility instead of selling out to a nazi.
During the last election, I watched democrats move to the right on immigration. I watched them throw trans people under the bus. They did this in a stupid attempt to get republicans to vote for them. republicans didn’t vote for them. republicans know how to shout “sucker!” and run off. And now I’m watching democrats look at a literal hitler heilin’ nazi and be like “oh now look, he’s not so bad! We can work with him to get what we (will come to) want!” Against all evidence, you trust establishment democrats to maintain integrity and not sell us all out. I don’t. They have no integrity to abandon.
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Right after I help him die in a fire and laugh about Tesla crashing.
You’re not very bright are you
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’m not the one defending quislings.
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Ah, so now we’ve arrived at the part of the conversation where you start yelling “quisling” like a drunk history major trying to sound profound in a Reddit flame war. Look, if you’re going to throw around World War II analogies, maybe at least get the dynamics right. No one’s defending collaboration with fascists—we’re pointing out that trying to get a powerful oligarch with control over key infrastructure to behave responsibly is not the same as praising or submitting to him. You can hate someone’s guts and still be forced to deal with them when they’ve wormed their way into controlling satellites, manufacturing, and public discourse. That’s not “toadyism,” that’s a sign of how broken and lopsided the system is.
What’s hilarious is how fast you flipped the script. First, you accuse Democrats of warming to Musk—then when I point out they actually see him as dangerous but are forced to deal with him, you spin that as betrayal anyway. So which is it? Do they love him, or are they spineless for working with someone they distrust? You can’t even hold your own narrative steady for five minutes.
And let’s not pretend you’re some paragon of ideological purity here, lobbing insults from the moral high ground. You’re doing the online version of smashing your toy soldiers together and declaring victory with a word like “quisling” while completely missing the point. No one here worships Elon. I literally said I’d laugh if Tesla crashed and Elon got roasted, and you still managed to accuse me of “defending” him. If you think that’s defending, maybe you need to reset your sarcasm meter—or just your whole personality.
Anyway, go ahead and shout into the void some more. I’m sure the ghosts of the Third Reich are super impressed with your vocabulary.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Look, I get the centrist impulse to browbeat anyone to your left. I get that you see a rich nazi’s money. I get that you want his money by any means, and know the easiest way to get it is to collaborate, but if you’re gonna collaborate with nazis, you’d best get used to being compared to vidkun. Democrats don’t take an evil person’s money and then be like “sucker!” and run off with it and work contrary to that person’s interests. They stay bought. Just like they did with netanyahu and his genocide. That must not happen again here.
You’re defending collaboration with nazis in particular. You’re claiming that trying to get a wealthy nazi to give you donations is responsibility instead of selling out to a nazi.
During the last election, I watched democrats move to the right on immigration. I watched them throw trans people under the bus. They did this in a stupid attempt to get republicans to vote for them. republicans didn’t vote for them. republicans know how to shout “sucker!” and run off. And now I’m watching democrats look at a literal hitler heilin’ nazi and be like “oh now look, he’s not so bad! We can work with him to get what we (will come to) want!” Against all evidence, you trust establishment democrats to maintain integrity and not sell us all out. I don’t. They have no integrity to abandon.