I was a bit disappointed when I saw Abby in the show version. I was hoping for some serious Cherlize Theron level body change in the show between flashback Abby and current Abby. I figured that’d be the hardest casting in the series, and instead they just… didn’t. It was supposed to be this swole vs. survivor battle between Ellie and Abby, and instead… i think Bella could take her, honestly.
Comment on 'The Last of Us' Season 2 Finale Viewership Down 55% From Season 1
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks agoNo, no, the second game wasn’t received well because right wingers didn’t like the lesbians or the butch lady, and so it was heavily review bombed.
You can argue some people had legitimate criticisms, as they will, this is always how the confusion circus goes, but you cannot separate this game’s release from the anti-sjw hate campaign that was built around it.
The Last of Us Part II has some fan-tastic story beats that I will defend to death.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Yeah, that’s a bummer.
I haven’t seen much of the show, but this does remind me of a moment in… episode 2, I think? Where they make a joke about the fungus not having airborne spores. And I was like, “have them or don’t, but don’t make fun of me, what the hell?” I liked the airborne spores, haha.
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
The story has good moments, and I loved the game play.
But the motivation for both Ellie and Abby has always been the weakest point for me. And that translated into the show. Both being driven by essentially only vengeance left me with a lot to desire. I didn’t particularly like the periods where I had to play as Abby because I didn’t think she had anything exciting to make me like her.
Without that initial drive the rest felt like it didn’t have a good foundation. Especially when the first had so much driving Joel and Ellie to reach the fireflies.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Well, I think vengeance is probably a difficult thing for people to sympathize with in general. Seemingly everyone, even us, give up on it long before Ellie does. Personally, I did believe that she wanted to keep going even if I didn’t.
The difficult thing with Abby is that she’s built up like a monster, so when you switch perspectives, it almost feels like a cheap trick at first. Her being butch and woke or whatever didn’t help, but it is a tough transition, to be sure. The thing I liked about it, though, when they finally face off: I didn’t know who I wanted to win. I liked Ellie a lot more, but I also thought she was a worse person. To me, the game made the case for why Abby should live, and I kind of agreed.
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
I agree that a group of idiots hated it and review bombed it. Maybe the were jealous Abby had a bigger clit then them, who knows. However, part II sold less then part I. That can’t be hand waved off. Even the show is displaying a dip in viewers.
Part II just feels rushed or poorly planned out. Maybe if they bridged the games it would help. Part I was a father protecting an adopted daughter. Part II should have been the reverse. Part III could be the death and revenge story. It would have worked better. Intead it felt like a bait and switch.
AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 4 weeks ago
Didn’t play the second game, but the issue I had with season 2 was it was disjointed and you could ‘feel’ the game style storytelling.
While the first game from a story standpoint was very much on rails, I’d gather that the second game was very much not linear levels like the game was for the first one?
Bella is a decent actress, but she’s not a series lead. The show felt too heavy for her shoulders, and that’s okay. Idk how much of the characters development (or lack thereof) was her or the game storytelling, but it just felt flat as the season progressed if that makes sense.
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
The show is amazing but ep 7 was very weak. The magic bullet was a kin to jumping the shark. I’m sure the 7 ep season didn’t help.
AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 4 weeks ago
Honestly the last few episodes weren’t that good to me. 7 is too short for a show, and she wasn’t a good enough actress to carry the show without Pedro.
That’s okay, it’s just an issue for them to solve.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
the second game was very much not linear levels like the game was for the first one?
It does ping pong between different flashback perspectives and whatnot. I… probably wouldn’t call it linear.
This might be more up for debate, but I did really like Ellie’s character development in Part 2; it echoed some things I thought about Joel in Part 1.
AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 4 weeks ago
For me her character just seemed very one note. She seemed to have remorse at the end for the ACTION she did, but the problem is, she was just very ‘here’s my goal and I’m going to do it’ the rest of the season.
Idk, to each their own, but the story was way worse than season 1 for me.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
This article is saying that Part 1 sold 6 million in one year, and Part 2 sold 10 million in 2 years. Bit odd that it’s using such bizarre numbers, but I don’t see how this isn’t a success.
If you’re talking all time, Part 1 came out 5 years sooner and it’s the first in a sequence—it’s always going to have those advantages.
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
When it released in summer 2013 for the PlayStation 3, it sold [6 million copies] within almost a full year after release. By 2018, two years before The Last of Us Part II, the first title sold [18 million copies] across the PS3 and its PlayStation 4 remaster.
As of June 2022, The Last of Us Part II for the PS4 reached [10 million copies] since its summer 2020 release.
Part I sold 18 mil. 6 mil the first year and 12 mil the next 4 year.
Part II sold 10 mil over 2 years.
Maybe you can find a more up-to-date sales figures but usually the second game out paces the first game.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Can’t help but think the show has flubbed some of them though. Like revealing why Abby hates Joel so early on.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Seriously, that switch over in the game was such a trip. I think they really missed out having that.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
The whole concept of being the villain in someone else’s story is such a good one.
And then ask you get online is “butch lady bad”, or that Joel wouldn’t trust them. Conveniently forgetting he trusted Henry and Sam in the first game. If Henry wasn’t a good guy, Joel’s story would have been a lot shorter.