Comment on Bluesky Is Plotting a Total Takeover of the Social Internet

heavyboots@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Try using Mastodon and Bluesky at the same time. Bluesky is a twitter clone and perfect replacement. Mastodon is an excellent micro-blogging platform, but has none of the features people actually liked about twitter. People love recommendation algorithms and quote tweet dunking. That’s the core of what it’s all about. Mastodon is glorified RSS, which is great if you miss those days.

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  • Kache@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Perhaps open federated systems should have recommendation algos too, just optional and open

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    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It would be cool to download different algorithms people created to see how it feeds

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Doesn’t PeerTube already do this? Maybe I am mistaken.

      In any case there’s nothing inherently preventing this, just because a platform gets some of its data from other servers instead of its own users, it doesn’t mean it can’t use that data to run a recommendation algorithm.

      I don’t want it though. I prefer choosing for myself what sources I want to get information from instead of getting any of it recommended by the platform operator.

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  • madjo@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Follow a few interesting hashtags and you have your recommendation algorithm, but one you’re in control of.

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Have you seen the average person recently? They like to be spoon-fed content in a passive way. Look at Instagram Reels or TikTok.

      Mastodon is fine for geeks like us, but the average Joe would find it dead and boring. Bluesky managed to fill that hole left by Twitter.

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      • madjo@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        In that case, I wish the “average person” a lot of fun on corporate internet. Meanwhile we’ll have more fun on the federated indie internet.

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  • clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    fuck people liking shit … and fuck people going back to american corporate tech… yes, I’m mad like that.

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  • heavyboots@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Honestly I have used Blue Sky and Mastodon and Mastodon feels a lot more elegant to me, personally.

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• melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Fediverse software tends to be kind of hostile to convenience features people have grown accustomed to. Recommendation algorithms, for example. Lemmy is on the cutting edge for having a “Hot” sort.

  I know Mastodon has historically been pretty hostile to even more basic things like being able to search posts.

  I get why they think like that, and I honestly agree with some of it, but it inevitably creates a culture shock for outsiders coming from corpo media. I think that plus the network effect means the fediverse will always be kind of niche.

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• 60d@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Is Activity Pub integrated into Lemmy yet?

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  • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I thought it was built on activity pub.

    I’m gonna go over to my Mastodon account and try to reply to you. One sec.

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• Mniot@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Commercial software has advertising: people whose job is to advertise it. That means TV and web ads for Bluesky, influencers talking about it. It also means a team of software engineers building parts of the system specifically to draw people in, whereas non-commercial software often rejects that (lack of infinite-scroll on Lemmy’s default UI, for example).

  Activity Pub also requires a different mind-set that doesn’t exist elsewhere on the internet today. You need to decide which instance to join, or maybe to host your own instance. But it doesn’t really matter, because you can federate with other instances. But you have to drive some of that federation, so it does matter a little. It’s pretty complex and confusing and its a problem that only exists in this one niche of software.

  Bluesky gives you an infinite feed that feels like you’re connected to the entire Internet without you doing any work. I think the AP service are doing really well, considering what they’re up against.

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• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They just follow the herd. I wonder who directs the herd…

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