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kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

I see ad hominem very often as well as strawmanning. Specifically on lemmy people will say tankie/auth or irl they’ll say woke/liberal and then use those insults to further strawman argumenents. Specifically multiple times I have said “hey I voted Kamala but her policies deeply concern me”, and people responded with “Uhh how dare you not vote Kamala and openly declare you hate democracy, freedom, and trans people”.

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throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
The other way happens as well. You can say you voted harris because its the lesser of 2 evils, then someone calls you genocider… 🤦‍♂️

Like, people forget how FPTP systems work.

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- kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Or I can say that I voted Kamala and I still hate that she supported genocide and get called a tankie.
  
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  - dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    What you need to keep in mind is that it’s not just voting, it’s also campaigning. If you’re a citizen who has opinions you share with your friends, that’s one thing. If you own a large online community that consistently puts out propaganda, that’s another thing. That’s campaigning. Voting for a candidate while campaigning against that same candidate is an action that confuses other people, because it’s self-defeating.
    
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    BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    So we’ve moved from “you have to vote for the Democrats” to “you can’t publicly criticize the Democrats”
    
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- Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I’ve been called a harris voting genocider a couple times now. I’m Australian.
  
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Aqarius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I often get the feeling those people see everyone who voices dissent as one big amorphous blob. It’s as if every conversation on a topic is part of one long argument, and you get assigned every claim that anyone ever made. Almost like they watched that “moops” alt-right playbook video and drew the exact wrong conclusion.

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- kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Yup, every time I talk about workers libertarian they say “uhh but what about china, haha no food”. Ignoring the fact that most of their claims are garbage simply being a leftist has caused people to drag me with every leftist ideology and person to ever exist.
  
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