Comment on We gonna fight
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The right opposes free thought and favors conformity to support the privileged few.
The left favors free thought and opposes conformity, because that would impede social progress.
Yeah, I wonder why one of thsoe groups is likely to have arguments.
The problem is not public arguments, but groups rejectimg other groups for ideological reasons. I personally know people who are like “you can be a communist and you can be wrong”.
The reality is that there are left groups, especially far-left groups, who will already dismiss your opinion on everything for not categorically rejecting a social markets economy. Doesn’t matter if you agree in all other points.
A fundamental disagreement on a foundational principle is going to be a hurdle, indeed.
That reminds me of a scene from Jean-Luc Godard’s La Chinoise, where some members of a Maoist group call others “conformists” or something to that effect because they hold different views on the finer details of communism/socialism.
The right is also driven by fear and hate. It’s easier to get coordination and conformity that way.
It’s a different version of the tolerance paradox
The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance. (Source Wikipedia)
CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not necessarily. Some leftists demand conformity in beliefs. “If you don’t believe XYZ, you’re a shill/neoliberal/fascist etc.”
I feel like favoring free thought and opposing conformity leads to arguments, but demanding conformity leads to enemies (like this meme).
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 weeks ago
Some of the most authoritarian people I come into contact with on any kind of regular basis are “leftists” on Lemmy.
The ones in real life are not like that. I feel like Reddit’s moderation model really encourages it, and some of them started really taking it to heart when they came to Lemmy which copied that same model.
trololo@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
If the believe is that we should send more bombs, maybe it’s not about comformity but more about your own morality