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Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Go to the factory. Feel how it is to toil the days off. That’ll push you to think harder. You’re too comfortable now and just have no immediate reason to change anything.
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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Why?
134340@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
[deleted]SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 day ago
You’d be surprised. Most industrial jobs are not all that physical anymore. I felt the same as you did at your age and I spent 20 years grinding jobs I absolutely hated because I too had no ambition coming out of high school. I ended up bouncing around call centers while trying to find something I enjoyed at college enough to be successful at, all the while being passed over by people who actually enjoyed what they were doing.
I’m a tool maker now, I do a little troubleshooting, a little machining, and my job is immensely satisfying. It’s not for everyone but that’s every job.
Honestly even if you’re opposed to industry, I wouldn’t bother with an expensive education until you have some idea of what you want to do. Find some place that’ll give you an entry level job and provide tuition reimbursement, get your core studies out of the way while you figure stuff out.
Guidy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Because after twenty years of it your body will be wrecked.
I work in IT and have multiple coworkers who actually work physically harder than I do (in their roles vs. mine) in their 60s. One is 65.
Got lots of 65 year old factory or construction workers, do ya? And I’m talking about laborers, not supervisors etc.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 day ago
Got lots of 65 year old factory or construction workers, do ya? And I’m talking about laborers, not supervisors etc.
Yes.
The oldest guy on our seniority list has had one job his entire life, he’s 72. He refuses to retire. The entire first page of seniority is guys in their 60’s. To be clear, if they’re on the seniority list, they’re not supervisors, they’re machine operators, welders, paint line guys, and tradesmen.
I, at 40, am one of the younger people in the building.
We recently started sucking up as many students as we could for the trades jobs because of how dangerously close to retirement most of the workforce is.
These jobs are not nearly as bad as people think. It’s not construction, which absolutely can and does destroy bodies. Factory work is engineered around being ergonomic and safe. If for no other reason than there simply isn’t the workforce available to replace people that leave young. But there’s actually lots of reasons. It’s legally required, it’s watched closelt by more than one federal agency (at least it WAS…). The factory literally can’t make money if these guys are getting injured all the time, and it’s way easier to make something safe to do than deal with constant injuries.
Yermaw@lemm.ee 1 day ago
In the factory i used to work at it was riddled with older people who just wouldn’t quit and couldn’t get fired. Was like working in a nursing home.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Hard work is not an embarrassing or negative thing. Factory workers should not be shamed. We’re all trying to get by.
Asafum@feddit.nl 1 day ago
I think it’s more of an underpay issue. I’m in a factory too and “topping out” here is like a hair away from what minimum wage should be. It’s disgusting what they look to pay.
AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
This is the same brain rot as thinking that hitting your kids will motivate them.
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
That is a heckin’ weird mindset to me. Comfortable people can still have passions and drive. You don’t need to suffer to want something different. Plus, some people like working hard labor jobs, are they wrong to do so?
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sure, but OP is comfortable and is citing their lack of passions and drive as a problem they want advice for. They’re asking for confirmation that its okay to have no passions/drives or for actions that will change that.
Where @Lembot_0002@lemm.ee is going here is that some temporary suffering may underscore with OP that they want something different than suffering which may act as motivation for them to choose a path to continue their easy lifestyle instead.
Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 1 day ago
So what is wrong with my advice? If he likes factory work – he’ll get the real taste of it. If not – it would be a stimulus to find something better.
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I didn’t say your advice was wrong, I said your mindset was weird to me. I will never knock people going into more manual jobs. The world needs janitors just as badly as it needs doctors.
Your argument was that their lack of drive is caused by their comfort, and the cure is to toil the days off. In my experience I’ve seen plenty of people in all quadrants of the “comfort vs drive” graph. For example: a friend of mine is worked to the bone in a warehouse, but doesn’t have any drive to look elsewhere. Also, at my last job some of the cushiest positions with very little required work were constantly used as a stepping stone for even higher paying roles with seemingly more responsibility. My friend has a surplus of labor but lack of drive, while the ladder climbers at my last job had plenty of comfort and drive.
So, in my opinion, I do not think the amount of labor/exhaustion someone experiences in their job has a guaranteed effect on their drive. Your comment makes it seem like you do think that, so that position is “weird” to me.
Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 1 day ago
You understood me wrong. I didn’t say that toil is cure. I called exposing to toil stimulus.
I don’t know English so I’m not sure how clear my wording was.