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Comment on Father Whose Son Was Shot by Cincinnati Police Hits Deputy With Car, Killing Him

According to the son was in a stolen vehicle, and ran away with a gun in his hand before being shot and killed.

The father after seeing the body cam video went out and killed a deputies who was directing traffic.

The article doesn’t say whether the deputy was involved in the shooting, but it’s implied he wasn’t.

The article, but frankly also the responses here, leave me with a lot of ethical questions. How is this not just incredibly tragic for everyone involved? How can you judge the police’s handling of the situation that resulted in the killing of the son as absolutely unjustified based on what was in the article, and how can you be happy that a seemingly innocent person was killed by the father? I’m as sceptical about the police as the next person, ACAB and all, but it’s a bit disappointing to see some of the reactions here, based on the information in the article. Perhaps I missed something and this was a George Floyd type situation? And it was the deputy who killed the son who was killed?

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kreskin@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
well for starters we dont beleive the police account of the sons killing. Cops lie and bully as part of their job and are held to no professional standards of conduct whatsoever, so why should any of beleive their narrative of what happened? The cops story sounds like self serving bullshit to me.

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- LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  This is a lot of words to say you think what those police you rail against do is ok. Either this man knew the officer was the one who killed his son and decided to take his own justice or he had no idea and picked an available target because they were there.
  
  Either way it’s gross and so are you, and a lot of other people in this thread are too.
  
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  - kreskin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    video evidence contradicts officers story. Cops saw a gun and started blasting, same as they always do. And I think bootlickers like yourself are “gross”.
    
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modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

How can you judge the police’s handling of the situation that resulted in the killing of the son as absolutely unjustified based on what was in the article?

To start with, by not judging it in a vacuum.

I commend you for wrestling with the ethics, but be careful what you take for granted. A kid is dead, and a father is likely looking around at how police misconduct has been handled, even before a fascist takeover of our federal government, and concluding that justice is not on offer to him or his kind unless he returns some measure of balance to the scales.

This is wrong, it’s tragic all around, but stuff like this will continue until there is real justice to be had.

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Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Of course there’s tragedy all around in this situation, this is neither the first or last example of dysfunctional law enforcement.

In a first step, maybe the son was in a stolen vehicle. Maybe they were running away. Neither is an offence tied with a death penalty, and especially not without trial. What if they’d been kidnapped or coerced?

Now to the tricky part, with media telling of people disappearing in the streets, or just increasing violence, being armed isn’t unreasonable. And possibly even legal. Not subject to the death penalty, and not without trial.

If they were running away, they’re not endangering the police - why were they killed? Not in enforcing the law, not in self defence.

There’s plenty of reason for a relative to feel injustice has been done. And it’s well known the police systematically avoid and deflect correcting such misjustice, as well as harass those seeking that.

It’s not a far reach to take matters in your own hands, especially in your grief finding you’ve lost what to live for.

Mind you, if the police were doing their job properly, they wouldn’t neither feel the need to shoot-to-kill, nor would they be targeted by vigilante retaliation.

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amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
.ml users siding with the police once again, I guess this is the logical endpoint of being MLs

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- Dogyote@slrpnk.net ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  lol what? That’s such a gross mischaracterization of .ml users it borders on libel. If anything, they’d be in the ACAB camp.
  
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  - amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    they’d absolutely not be in the ACAB camp, considering the track record of tankies on creating police states. there wasn’t a single ML state in history that didn’t end up doing this.
    
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    Dogyote@slrpnk.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Dude, you’re so misinformed. They’re anticapitalist, therefore they’re anti capitalist-police. Police, especially Western police, protect capital. There’s no way a person you’d consider a tankie would support American police. Absolutly no way.
    
    Bootlicking? I do not. Anyone can check my comment history and see that.
    
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- robador51@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  How you got that from my comment is beyond understanding. Did you read what I wrote? I was only commenting that based on the events as described in the article it is a little disappointing to read the gleefully and happy comments that an implied innocent person was killed by a grieving father.
  
  As others have pointed out, the police in the US cannot be trusted. I do not trust the police in the US. I believe the militarisation of the police and the impunity with which they operate are a danger to the society. If anything I believe the police should be held to higher standards than the general population, not lower as I believe is the case. It’s a fucked up institution and stuff must change.
  
  But none of that justifies randomly killing someone. If that makes you think I’m on the side of the police then 🤷‍♂️
  
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- Cargon@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I’m on .ml and I fucking hate cops. You’ll never see me concern trolling on behalf of some dead pigs.
  
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Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Indeed, I want to see the video and who was the police officer involved in the shooting.

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- robador51@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Well, I would prefer not to see, but I get what you’re saying.
  
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