Comment on I'm a 6'1" man with size 3 feet which means every they measure my feet at a shoe store, the Brannock device gatekeeps my gender

Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Where do you live that they don’t?

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  • weirdboy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    In Japan everyone knows their shoe size in centimeters. Those stay the same regardless of gender or whatever other crazy unrelated topic to how big something is.

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    • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      size in centimeters

      Measuring like that would be even easier in the US, where the answer would always be simply “one foot”.

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    • Manticore@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It’s normal for men to have wider feet, with a wider and longer toebox compared to the length of the foot. Length is only one dimension of several. (Though a lot of people don’t think to replace their shoes for arches.)

      It’s unclear how much of that is upbringing. The two box length is gendered, but toe and foot width go up wen spending a lot of time barefoot, and toe width goes down in pointed shoes that can eve n make toes ‘tuck’ and cause bunions.

      A women’s 9 1/2 double-wide fits me about the same as a plain Men’s 7. Women’s dress shoes are rarely in wide, and NEVER double-wide. Though I’ve found success with Aussie brands because going barefoot is normal there and so the shoes are often wider for everyone. We’re also seeing the toebox become a more slanted natural foot shape, instead of the weird point symmetrical one.

      Bodies can be complicated, and one size/shape isn’t for everyone. The way we live and dress absolutely changes the shoes we need, too.

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      • joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        My most recent shoe purchased was decided because the arc in the shoe perfectly marched my own. Also i do have rather wide feet and did go barefoot a lot as a kid. Funny thing im the only in group that still has arches.

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      • weirdboy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yes but the number doesn’t have to change. Just like in the US, they use letters to denote relative foot wdith vs. the average. No need for multiple numbering schemes.

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    • hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      That would make it a foot measurement, not a shoe size.

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      • th3dogcow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It would except for the fact that shoe sizes here, from babies to adults are only denominated in centimetres. If there are international sizes printed on the shoes, they have no meaning to residents in Japan. Check the tag inside your shoes; If they have international sizes printed on them, you’ll see Japan’s is in centimetres, and may have EE (or more Es) next to it to denote width. If there is nothing, then they are standard width.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        This is probably gonna blow your mind. But most shoes are worn on feet. Crazy, uh?

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Shoe sizes are Unisex here in in Europe as well as in Asia. And in Asia they are even smarter - they simply use centimeters, while we use “Paris Points” of 2/3s of a centimeter.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Just so you know: Women shoes are different in both width and length*.

  Probably because men often need wider shoes.

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Well, that’s why you still have mens and womens sections in the shoe shop. But it definitively makes it easier e.g. to find a shoe for a woman with wide feet, just take a mens’ sneaker in the same size.

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