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• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Would be ironic if we had to go to Africa because life there is better.

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  • Jhuskindle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s a great show about families going there for a better life from here. It’s called coming from America. Worth a watch. Not everything is perfect there but people from here can own land and feel free.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      btw, do you think americans would still go to africa if it turns out to be/become communistic? i.e., no or restricted private ownership of land, …

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      • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Feels like a bit of a null question. Africa isn’t a monolith, there’s north/south/central/etc etc. A fully communist africa wouldn’t make sense at all, it would be like saying a communist europe. Which, europe’s a continent full of different countries, with ideological differences.

        [Most] americans (westerners in general maybe? I don’t know how negative anti-capitalism was viewed as a result of the cold war beyond the US) would probably avoid it completely if it was socialist (which as of now, i don’t recall any leftist government in africa.)

        Anyway, africa has been socialist before (at least, north africa). Afaik, under Gamal Abdel-nasser in Egypt with Nasserism (i have a mixed view of nasser, personally.) And Gaddafi with the Third international theory (yeah fuck this guy lmao) [north] africa was socialist. Both were dictators, unfortunately.

        My views on nasser are mixed, since he was an anti-imperialist willing to stand up against western imperialism and wanted to unite arabs. But… he also turned egypt into a military dictatorship, putting their tentacles in everything. Make of that what you will, though.

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  • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s exactly my plan C if the lunatics start WW3 suddenly.
    Reachable from Europe and less likely to explode.
    But I hope to find a perfect spot before that in an organised way.

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    • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’d be hilarious to see a reverse migration.

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      • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Imagine if Africa gets their own Frontex, start pushing our boats back, shooting and drowning us far away from prying eyes.
        “Here, have some of those European values you keep talking about!”

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  • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They fully have the right to refuse us.
    For many, many reasons.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      hey that’s racist (slight /s as that is literally the reasoning that i see many people use here as an argument why to not block immigration)

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      • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There wouldn’t be any migration if Europe, which has practically nothing of what they need has been leeching on Africa, the most resourceful continent.
        You can’t compare the 2.

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  • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Africa is beautiful, the only issue is safety.

    Countries like namibia/botswana probably have less of these issues as well.

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• Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Those nice people made a fascist president there not too long ago.

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  • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, but who doesn’t have fascists? At least they’re prosecuting theirs. Bolsonaro can’t stand for elections no more.

    So, at least they’re back to the status quo, where they destroy the planet slowly.

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    • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      True, but I was surprised tho when I first heard of him and his succes.
      “Brazil? The smiley samba sunshine people where most people aren’t even white voting for a fascist?”

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      • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Brazil is super diverse to be fair. And it’s one the largest countries on the planet.

        I like what Gusteau from ratatouille has to say about this - “Anyone can be a facist, but only the stupidest can be great at it”

        Also Anton’s “Not everyone can become a great facist, but a great facist can come from anywhere”

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Y’all think fascism is unique to white people?

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