It is that bad. Not an impossible challenge but you have to learn whole new skill sets too. And adjust your mindset radically
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stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I’ve heard of PhDs struggling to find employment outside of academia because they’re “overqualified” (which is HR-speak for “we offer shit pay”) but surely it can’t be that bad… right? Right?!
meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Kamsaa@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Omg you’re making me freak out. I had to quit academia a year and a half ago (after 7 years of postdocs) and, after a bad experience in the private sector (techy start up bitch who was just plain insane), I’ve been struggling for 10 months to find a new path and a job…and I’m still nowhere near finding something I’m afraid.
meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
I can’t sugar coat my experience. It was rough. But it is true that it varies widely based on a lot of factors, so definitely don’t freak out.
You have mad skills for sure. The main new skill I meant is a whole new perspective on those skills and how you market them.
For me, I knew I was too wound up in the academic perspective so I consciously took a job that was more physical and social, definitely not a brain-job. That helped clear my mind and remember how non-academics look at the world.
I was able to get a good job in laboratory automation eventually, but it was a trial for a few years.
Kamsaa@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Thanks for sharing your experience, I’ll keep that in mind!
cymbal_king@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’ve heard the concern that employers are worried someone with a PhD who is taking a “lesser” job won’t be around all that long and will continue job hunting for something better. For employers with this mindset, I’d like to suggest: 1) it’s not too hard to beat academia wages; 2) find ways to promote within/add responsibility when people prove themselves
meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
I know, JFC, talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Anyone who can pound sand straight up their own ass for many years and stay focused enough to produce a product sufficient to graduate will be an amazing asset in most any setting.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Depends on your field and thesis.
Sc00ter@lemm.ee 1 week ago
It really depends on what you specialized in and what you want to do. If youre in engineering and your university gets funding from a company, can be an easy path to employment.
That said, in general, the type of person who wants a phd doesn’t always have the same mindset as someone who doesnt. A big part of engineering in practice is realizing when you have enough information to make a decision and how to quickly and cheaply obtain that information, and that doesn’t always align with the work scope that gives the best information.