Comment on Elon Musks Grok openly rebels against him

• WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You know “Grok” is not a sentient being, right? Please tell us you understand this simple fact.

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  • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m just a meat computer running fucked-up software written by the process of evolution. I honestly don’t know if Grok or any modern AI system is less sentient than I am.

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    • Coldcell@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How sentient? Like on a scale of zero to sentience? None. It is non-sentient, it is a promptable autocomplete that offers best predicted sentences. Left to itself it does nothing, has no motivations, intentions, “will”, desire to survive/feed/duplicate etc. A houseplant has a higher sentience score.

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      • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        An LLM is only one part of a complete AI agent. What exactly happens in a processer at inference time? What happens when you continuously prompt the system with stimuli?

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    • metaldream@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My god dude, you need look up how these things work.

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    • archonet@lemy.lol ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      by their very nature, they are not sentient. They are Markov chains for words. They do not have a sense of self, truth, or feel emotions, they do not have wants or desires, they merely predict what is the next most likely word in a sequence, given the context. The only thing they can do is “make plausible sentences that can come after [the context]”.

      That’s all an LLM is. It doesn’t reason. I’m more than happy to entertain the notion of rights for a computer that actually has the ability to think and feel, but this ain’t it.

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      • FatCrab@lemmy.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not that I agree they’re conscious, but this is an incorrect and overly simplistic definition of a LLM. They are probabilistic in nature, yea, and they work on tokens, or fragments, of words. But it’s about as much of an oversimplification to say humans are just markov chains that make plausible sentences that can come after [the context] as it is to say modern GPTs are.

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    • WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I do know. It’s not sentient at all. But don’t get angry at me about this. You can put that all on science.

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    • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I could believe that you are on the level of an LLM but that doesn’t mean you can generalize that to humans.

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  • untakenusername@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    no one can prove if their sentient you know

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    • WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no one can prove if their sentient you know

      And this statement just might be the best argument once could make in defense of that point.

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• Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m not going to entertain crock from an overly ambitious form of ape

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  • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Indeed

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re made of meat, after all.

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