Comment on I'll give 100% when I work for a co-op that is equally owned by all the workers.

• Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Which is precisely the argument for why capitalists are needed, and thus warrant recompense (at the expense of the worker).

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They’ve designed the system intentionally this way, to keep people dependant on them.

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    • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Agreed. It’s very hard to beat the system from within. And their arguments only make sense within it.

      Now if only there was a way to break the system… 🤔

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  • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s not a natural outcome. That’s an artificially created made up barrier. That does not justify capitalists. That shows how they have purposefully rigged the system to be reliant on them.

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  • Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Systematically unfair system requires us to continue unchanged to the advantage of an incredibly small number dbags who own everything already, ‘cuz they have all the money to invest’. Good critical thought dude.

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    • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Oh don’t get me wrong, it’s a thoroughly unjust system. That is just their argument for perpetuating it. (I could definitely have phrased it better)

      And I also believe it’s rigged.

      Which means that the only way to win is to break the rules, or play a different game, which sounds more ominous than intended. But I do believe we need to do away with capitalism, or the very least capitalists. Either the $1 billion “you win” cap, or just a wholly different way of economic organisation. Other options are available, but few are as civil.

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• Tja@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  How many banks have rejected your business proposal?

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  • space_iio@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You seem to not understand the difference between an investment and a loan

    I have applied to a few accelerator programs and haven’t gotten a response

    One thing is to get money in exchange for ownership of the company and the other one is to get money that has to be paid back no matter what

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So you’re not willing to take any risk? Weird.

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      • seadoo@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s different kind of risk when failure means you may not eat or become homeless.

        The rich do not incur that kind of risk when they engage in “entrepreneurial-ship”

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      • space_iio@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes I will take marginal amount of risk but no I won’t gamble everything

        Some people get the opportunity to try things risk free, and others need to risk everything so if they fail the consequences are very negative

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