Comment on I'll give 100% when I work for a co-op that is equally owned by all the workers.

Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Can’t afford to take the chance. Most startups fail and people generally only see the succes cases. If you’re not dependent on work you can afford to take chances like this.

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• space_iio@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Funding is stopping me. Lack of investment money to get started. Access to capital.

  I don’t have the luxury to stop being an employee, even momentarily because I need the income

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  • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Which is precisely the argument for why capitalists are needed, and thus warrant recompense (at the expense of the worker).

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    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They’ve designed the system intentionally this way, to keep people dependant on them.

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      • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Agreed. It’s very hard to beat the system from within. And their arguments only make sense within it.

        Now if only there was a way to break the system… 🤔

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    • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That’s not a natural outcome. That’s an artificially created made up barrier. That does not justify capitalists. That shows how they have purposefully rigged the system to be reliant on them.

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    • Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Systematically unfair system requires us to continue unchanged to the advantage of an incredibly small number dbags who own everything already, ‘cuz they have all the money to invest’. Good critical thought dude.

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      • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Oh don’t get me wrong, it’s a thoroughly unjust system. That is just their argument for perpetuating it. (I could definitely have phrased it better)

        And I also believe it’s rigged.

        Which means that the only way to win is to break the rules, or play a different game, which sounds more ominous than intended. But I do believe we need to do away with capitalism, or the very least capitalists. Either the $1 billion “you win” cap, or just a wholly different way of economic organisation. Other options are available, but few are as civil.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    How many banks have rejected your business proposal?

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    • space_iio@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You seem to not understand the difference between an investment and a loan

      I have applied to a few accelerator programs and haven’t gotten a response

      One thing is to get money in exchange for ownership of the company and the other one is to get money that has to be paid back no matter what

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So you’re not willing to take any risk? Weird.

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  • seeigel@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Can you imagine to post your idea and look for participants on lemmy?

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