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• Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Countries that use Jus Soli usually also have Jus Sanguinis. The USA for example. My friend is a US citizen despite not being born there because his mother is a US citizen.

  Not having Jus Sanguinis would be downright horrible. Imagine your mother moves back to her home country and if you want to follow her you have to clear immigration hurdles.

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  • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah having it as well is good. Using only it is inhumane and barbaric.

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    • meaansel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For that matter, aren’t borders kinda inhumane and barbaric in the first place? They declare some people as second-rate. They trap people in poor dictatorships, but are oh so permeable for conflict minerals or products of sweatshops

      Could your point be that generally more ways to become citizen is a better than less?

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s based on paperwork, not blood.

  You can just turn up, release your spawn and claim it belongs there. We’re not frogs in a pond.

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What a cringe attitude to have. People born in a country should have citizenship.

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    • Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People born in a country should have citizenship.

      Why?

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      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because it assures that people raised there aren’t separated from the country of origin. It blocks issues. It’s better. Why do you think they shouldn’t?

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• uienia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh wow, you are really doubling down on proving OPs point, aren’t you?

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  • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes. People doubling down on proving their own points is a normal thing.

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• agavaa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How so? Seems reasonable to me to have the same citizenship as my immediate family. And if you want to change it you can apply for it and get it no problem.

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  • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You shouldn’t have to apply to be a citizen of somewhere you’ve lived your whole life. If your parents were immigrants and you’re not, you should have dual citizenship from birth.

    Also, citizenship shouldn’t exist, but if it has to, it should be permissive enough that someone could never be refused citizenship of the only country they’ve ever lived in.

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