Comment on Why do most Americans use an iPhone?

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• jeffw@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Conspicuous consumption doesn’t really hold in this case because the alternative is around the same price.

  I’d also question any claim about the dating partner. Maybe a study said it has an impact, but I doubt it’s a strong impact on evaluation of a potential partner. By all means, I’d love to see the source for that

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    web.archive.org/…/are-iphone-users-petty-youll-be…

    The different colored texts in iMessage and forced downgrade of any MMS sent via an Android is part of that perception by iPhone users.

    Apple refused to implement RCS until very recently. Not saying Google is better in terms of RCS, they have their own issues, this is just about how Apple has leveraged iMessage to the same ends.

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  • sanpo@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the alternative is around the same price

    You know that’s not true.

    There are stupidly expensive Android flagships, but there are also a lot of phones for a fraction of the price.

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    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And the phones that cost a fraction of the price are significantly slower, have a much worse screen, barely get any software updates, and overall just kinda suck.

      Sure low and mid range phones are “good enough” but if it’s a device you use for hours every day do you really only want “good enough” for right now?

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    • CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But those inexpensive phones most often don’t deliver a comparable device experience to the flagship devices. Honestly, this is the crux of things. Comparing iPhone to “Android” is a fool’s errand. Apple often only has one more budget conscious model available explicitly. But OS support tends to last longer on Apple devices, so multiple model years are viable at once.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Usually people speak of this as an advantage but I also think it is a disadvantage, one of the reasons for wider usage of iPhones ……

      • there are crappy android phones
      • historically android was crappy (even if it is much better now)
      • most android phones are loaded with bloatware.
      • most android phones are poorly supported or for only a short period
      • privacy and security can be a challenge for regular users
      • inconsistent usability

      Meanwhile, iPhones

      • are always “good”, even the lower end
      • historically held leads in usability, features, even if not true anymore
      • no bloatware from vendors
      • full support for 6 years
      • claim privacy and security by default
      • good usability

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• artificialfish@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate to say it, the reason people choose dating partners on phone use is because of blue texts on iMessage. that’s the only reason. Apple was brilliant pitching that as an Android problem instead of playing fair and working on an open standard since day 1. Dragged their feet for years.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I still find this hard to believe. It’s just a visual indicator whether the conversation is encrypted or not, but who would actually judge partners with this.

    When I checked with my kids, since we know teenagers can be very shallow bullies, they said there is some light teasing but it was really started by online crap like this. Not even teenagers care. I mean, they don’t usually use iMessages anyway, so many probably never noticed. “Blue texts” is a fake issue. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was started as a prank, or by Google, and no one cared until it was all over the internet

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    • artificialfish@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not just a visual indication of if it’s encrypted. SMS sucks, truly, compared to apps like iMessage, WhatsApp, etc. so it’s actually annoying to message people with green text. Now that Apple does RCS it’s not a big deal, but in the USA there’s no default internet messaging app like WhatsApp, to the extent that there is one, it’s iMessage.

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        SMS is default texting for all phones of all types all providers in the US. Its main advantage is ubiquity and it is the only ubiquitous text protocol. SMS was always owned by cell providers.

        While I also am disappointed that ubiquitous text protocol owned by cell providers never progressed, can’t blame Apple for that. They could have used their influence to push harder but bottom line is the change needed to be at cell providers. They may also have seen that even Google with all its influence wasn’t able to make it happen (without taking it proprietary, owning it, centralizing it).

        But let me ask this: what other texting provider includes a fallback to incorporate texters outside their network? At all? Does WhatsApp include users of iMessage? SMS? RCS?

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• Oisteink@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It about not beeimg sold as the product. Its about using the browser that dont rat you out

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That means Apple’s advertising is working if you actually believe they care about your privacy.

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  • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But iphones can’t use Firefox with uBlockOrigin and NoScript

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    • Oisteink@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      True. I run this on an android tablet, but firefox misses my usability needs. So i end up on safari more often than not

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