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naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

There is a difference between Anomie and anarchy

Just because there are no leaders/rulers, doesn’t mean there are no social rules or morale values.

A law doesn’t keep one from doing bad stuff.
Else we wouldn’t have murderers.

But society must grow and develop. At the current state anarchy probably wouldn’t work…

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breadcat@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

a law doesn’t keep one from doing bad stuff

that’s true, they need to be enforced somehow…

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- njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They’re enforced now but murder still happens.
  
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  - agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    That doesn’t prove that not enforcing them would somehow make murder disappear, iust proves that you can’t absolutely eliminate a behavior. Every action has diminishing returns.
    
    I can remove some of the heat from an object by putting it in the fridge; . can remove more by putting it in the freezer, but that requires more energy. I can remove even more by using more and more sophisticated scientific equipment, but I can never reduce the temperature to absolute zero. That doesn’t mean the soda in my fridge isn’t colder than one on the counter.
    
    Perfect results aren’t obtainable except in trivial cases.
    
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    njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    To your point though diminishing returns. When is it worth it. You’ve just a conceded that enforcing said laws don’t actually prevent the crime. I would say enforcement never prevents any crime and enforcement is about punishment not prevention. So when is it worth it? What level totalitarianism an authoritarianism is worth it? How much abuse and Injustice is necessary to assuage your fears about the other? Surely you’re not going to sit here and tell me only fear of punishment is what stops you from murdering people?
    
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- communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  In anarchism, usually policing is handled rotationally, like most positions of authority.
  
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  - breadcat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    what do you do if there’s not enough people that want and are skilled enough to fill the positions
    
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    communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    What do you do if that happens in non-anarchist societies?
    
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