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houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Yes, b/c the stats I’m talking about (the percentage of men that are actual criminals) actually prove my point.

You used a comparison between two groups as supporting argumentation for a population inference. It’s a nonsequitur fallacy. I believe you that men are more often the perp, but that doesn’t mean all men are murderers or violent in any other way. That’s what someone is implying when they say things like “too bad men are murderers tho”. There’s literally no qualifier to that…it specifically aims at men.

Enjoy your night.

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_lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
aaaand we’re back to “not all men again”

for fuck’s sake you stupid ass, nobody is saying it’s all men. the point is that violent crime toward women predominantly comes from men, and happens enough that women must live in fear because they are likely to have a violent encounter with men. saying men are murderers is not the same as saying all men are murderers. there’s a reason the word “all” is used and isn’t used. it is a fact that women have to be afraid of violence from men and men specifically. that is why she says “too bad men are murderers” because men are the ones that are statistically likely to take her life (among other things) when she’s out alone. she did not say “all men are murderers” because that’s a given that doesn’t need to be clarified to anyone except for incel pricks like you arguing in bad faith.

you aren’t even capable of having this discussion because you’re fixated on one fundamentally flawed strawman argument that refutes nothing being said. have the night you deserve.

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- FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  women must live in fear because they are likely to have a violent encounter with men
  
  You are an absolute fool.
  
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  - _lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    come back when you’re older
    
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- houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  How is it strawman? I straight up said i believe you in what you’re saying. I didn’t misinterpret your stat.
  
  I said the conclusion you’re defending is flawed based on the supporting evidence.
  
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  - _lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    because nobody at any point in history has ever fucking said “all men are [insert negative thing men are statistically more likely to do than anyone else here]” that was never my conclusion, that was never the implication of the original post, and you know it.
    
    MRA astroturfers make such misrepresentations of our points not because they believe them but because they know other(usually impressionable and young) men will feel attacked if our arguments are construed as an attack on them personally even though they clearly aren’t. i’ve become hostile with you because it’s become clear that’s what you’re doing. you’re a propagandist for the far right whether you realize it or not and you should fuck right off.
    
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    houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No misreprensentation here. Those are all valid criticisms.
    
    Also, the image literally says “too bad men are murderers tho”. That’s about as broad stroked as it gets.
    
    This is hilarious. If you think you have it right, by all means keep at it. But when you finally realize what i’m saying, I have feeling you’re going to feel pretty embarrassed by how long it took you to get there.
    
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- houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
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  - _lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    this coming from the one throwing a misogynistic fit over a shitpost. eat my ass.
    
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    houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No thank you lol
    
    Enjoy your night
    
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