We, in fact, do own land. We just have an explicit contract with our government vs the implicit one people in the US have. Look into imminent domain seizures in the US.
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Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 hours agoQuite frankly, I think you’re failing to see that a major part of American culture, a literal founding principle, is “live free or die”. Americans are obviously not going to take that censorship as just a small downside.
absolute ownership (no property tax).
This is also just a lie. They don’t own land.
liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
…you know that a lease isn’t ownership right?
Look into imminent domain seizures in the US.
Yes, they can take land you own… That doesn’t mean you don’t own it lol. Just because you can lose something doesn’t mean you don’t own it
liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
…the ‘lease’ is that you don’t own it independent of the government, as in despite owning the land you’re not your own country. You’ll find this in every country, except in China it’s spelled out. It has an expiration since, you know, China tends to reform itself over time. None have expired, and right now under current law none of them can expire, they are automatically renewed to the owner at the time of expiry, with the assumption the owner isn’t going to commit treason.
Like the ‘social credit score’ nonsense you people made up, it’s a gross misinterpretation of reality that you believe because you fundamentally believe Chinese people are different than you.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
you believe because you fundamentally believe Chinese people are different than you.
??? Fascist government vs democracy (fingers crossed we stay one) and you think there isn’t a difference? Man you’ve been swallowing some serious propaganda. It’s not about the people, it’s about the government.
You’ll find this in every country
No, you won’t. It’s a different system. I’m not going to say it’s a worse system, because it’s not really, it’s just a different system. But you need to recognize that it is substantially different. A lease is different from pure ownership. There’s a lot less guarantees involved.
threshold_dweller@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
Whatavout whatabout whatabout
liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Using comparisons to make a point is not whataboubtism, Mr. Shapiro.
Sl00k@programming.dev 19 hours ago
Pointing out Americans system of live free or dying to avert censorship while also repeating US propaganda about China is hilariously ironic
What happens to the land/house you own if you don’t pay property tax in the US? Chinas 70 year lease is effectively a more solidified ownership than the US.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
That’s pure philosophy. I would argue that complete legal ownership is more ownership…
None of what I said was propaganda lmfao. Lease is just pure facts, and censorship is something that you’d have to be blind to think isn’t real.
threshold_dweller@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
Whatabout whatabout whatabout