hark@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Speaking of 2020, remember when democrats worked hard to pour all their support behind Biden over Bernie? What was the explanation for that?
remember when democrats worked hard to pour all their support behind Biden over Bernie? What was the explanation for that?
Biden got more votes?
Like, it’s not that complicated. Lookup both Democratic primaries Bernie has been in. He got crushed in popular votes both times. I like Bernie. You apparently do too. Doesn’t mean most voters do. He lost the popular vote. Twice.
I wouldn’t say he got crushed. But you’re not wrong. Despite people being wrong down voting you for saying that he lost the popular vote. He 100% did. I can say that as someone who voted for sanders. Unfortunately a lot of Sanders voters can’t.
A lot of the Democrats primary rules weren’t very democratic. But Sanders knew what they were going in. And Democrats didn’t break the rules. And despite losing, Sanders got shit done and helped make the rules more democratic for the future.
If Biden was getting more votes, why did the democratic party collude to make all the other candidates drop and put their support behind Biden while funding a super PAC to keep Warren in the race to split votes with Bernie right before the critical point of super tuesday? They also had their buddies in big media play the narrative of “the Biden miracle” where he edged ahead in South Carolina thanks to a single critical endorsement by Clyburn but was doing poorly before then. For this favor, the democrats moved South Carolina up in the primaries in 2024, even though South Carolina went to Trump in both 2020 and 2024 for the general election.
The democratic party felt so threatened by Bernie that they put their thumb on the scale during their own party primary which is already biased towards party-favored “moderate” candidates since people more in line with the party are more likely to vote in them.
en.wikipedia.org/…/2020_Democratic_Party_presiden…
en.wikipedia.org/…/2016_Democratic_Party_presiden…
Keep in mind that Biden became the most progressive president in our lifetimes.
So you decided to completely ignore the point of my post to reiterate “Biden got more votes?” even though the whole point of my post is to show how that’s a fallacious argument. Then you went on to spit out a tired talking about “most progressive president in our lifetimes” which is an extremely low bar to clear when democrats refuse to let anyone actually progressive through their party-controlled primary process.
Because it happens in, every, single, election. It wasn’t some special treatment Sanders got. Serious question, did you just come of voting age in the last 5 years? I’ve been at it for over 30 now, and have seen this several times.
lots of people who vote for dems aren’t very leftist. The reality is that for dems to win they need to pick sides opposed to republicans on enough issues to capture a majority. 2020 Biden did that. 2024 Biden Harris did not.
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
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