I appreciate it. I have some experience modding here, but not in a community like this, which has the potential to bring our the worst in people! I set rules that should be broad enough to do exactly that. I have high hopes, and it fills a need.
If people can get away with harming the community without breaking the rules, then just change the rules.
If you can’t think of any reasonable rules that would ban their behaviour, maybe they aren’t doing anything wrong and it’s just that you personally don’t like it.
“be nice” is a broad rule set. You need rule sets with clear expectations. If your rules are clear, then you won’t feel guilty for banning someone, and they don’t have a good excuse when they appeal. If you choose vague rules, people will submit perfectly good appeals which you have to turn down, and you’ll waste everyone’s time.
A ruleset is a machine. Video games are machines made out of rules, and so are board games. Board games just run on brains instead of microchips. A legal code is exactly the same, just more important. Make a good machine and moderation won’t even require your conscious mind. You can breeze through it according to the process without expending any mental energy.
Spend mental energy judging every situation individually, and you’ll either burn out or become a tyrant. Break your rules, and you either break your community or break yourself.
Oh I’m sure you have a way to justify your corrupt authoritarianism. I don’t care what your reasoning is. If you ban people without them breaking rules, then the only actual rule is “don’t upset the power tripping bastards”, which I strongly disagree with.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I appreciate it. I have some experience modding here, but not in a community like this, which has the potential to bring our the worst in people! I set rules that should be broad enough to do exactly that. I have high hopes, and it fills a need.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
If people can get away with harming the community without breaking the rules, then just change the rules.
If you can’t think of any reasonable rules that would ban their behaviour, maybe they aren’t doing anything wrong and it’s just that you personally don’t like it.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
“be nice” is a broad rule set. You need rule sets with clear expectations. If your rules are clear, then you won’t feel guilty for banning someone, and they don’t have a good excuse when they appeal. If you choose vague rules, people will submit perfectly good appeals which you have to turn down, and you’ll waste everyone’s time.
A ruleset is a machine. Video games are machines made out of rules, and so are board games. Board games just run on brains instead of microchips. A legal code is exactly the same, just more important. Make a good machine and moderation won’t even require your conscious mind. You can breeze through it according to the process without expending any mental energy.
Spend mental energy judging every situation individually, and you’ll either burn out or become a tyrant. Break your rules, and you either break your community or break yourself.
Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
How is this upvoted so much? This is fucking insane.
“Oh, just ban whoever even if they didn’t break any rules”
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Oh I’m sure you have a way to justify your corrupt authoritarianism. I don’t care what your reasoning is. If you ban people without them breaking rules, then the only actual rule is “don’t upset the power tripping bastards”, which I strongly disagree with.