Comment on Does the US really have no instruments in case a newly elected president immediatelly and openly exposes he's a nazi?

jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• ddplf@szmer.info ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So you actually need majority to PREVENT the collapse of democracy, and if you don’t have it, you’re fucked? How the fuck did this country even manage not to succumb into dictatorship for such a long time?

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Worse… The House makes the impeachment charge, that’s a 50% majority vote.

    THEN it goes to the Senate for conviction where you need a 2/3rds majority to remove them. 67/100.

    That’s the body which can’t do anything because they’re blocked by a 60 vote super majority to over-ride A filibuster.

    So you get 218 in the House, goes to the Senate, needs 60 votes to end debate and proceed with charges, then 67 votes to convict and remove.

    Trump’s first impeachment got 48 and 47 votes.
    His second was 57 votes.

    …wikipedia.org/…/First_impeachment_trial_of_Donal…

    …wikipedia.org/…/Second_impeachment_of_Donald_Tru…

    If he had been convicted, he would have been inelligible to run in '24.

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  • alleycat@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If enough people in a democracy decide that they want a dictatorship instead, then there is no stopping it, because rules don’t matter at this point. The trick is to don’t let it get this far. Tough shit for the US, though.

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If people democratically voted to end democracy, what are we suppose to do?

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    • Forbo@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People democratically sat on their asses and didn’t bother to fucking vote. More people abstained from voting than actually voted for either candidate. The real winner of the election was apathy. We deserve whatever fucked up outcome we get.

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  • ogmios@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well the country didn’t previously have a legion of mouth breathing retards screaming at the top of their lungs about micro-aggressions and declaring that the nation was illegitimate.

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    • ddplf@szmer.info ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes it had, and that legion even stormed the fucking capitol.

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• urandom@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How does that work? IIRC, Trump was impeached twice, yet stayed in office.

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