Where I’m from calling someone a cunt is term of endearment.
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Skyline969@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
If you’ve known him for 20 years he should respect you enough that you can tell him he’s being a cunt. Coming from you it should mean something, and maybe he’ll take a look at himself. I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people but folks like that need to be called out.
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Skyline969@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
In North America it’s like domestic violence in a word. Cunt doesn’t really have a positive connotation here.
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
More seriously in the U.K. it matters whether the people you’re talking to are posh or working class, and also context.
To be fair though, I think it’s a sexist term, and I shouldn’t have said it.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 month ago
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“right wingers” or “decent people”
Choose one, because they are mutually exclusive.
JayDee@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You can still be charismatic, a good neighbor, someone who stands up for friends when things start getting rough, a caring person that worries about those around them, and still hold the most batshit insane political ideas. I happen to know multiple people like this.
People are complex, and plenty are good people who have been led to believe the most outlandish shit. They are gullible and don’t put enough thought into what they accept as truth. It is just as attractive to people on our side of the fence to paint everyone else with a broad assumptions. It is the nature of Evil, because evil is ultimately a boring thing that we all do every day without thinking about it.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think the difference is between our definitions of “decent people”, because I don’t think a person gets to be called “decent” simply because they can be nice, pleasant, thoughtful, or helpful to only the people who abide by your personal world views while actively trying to make life worse for people who don’t meet their bigoted qualifications.
Yeah, they can sure seem like “decent people” if you’re not on the receiving end of their bigoted ire.
JayDee@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s not even that they only accept people that abide by their views - it’s just that they are oblivious to those outside the scope of their lives. They are not people who hate immigrants or other minorities, they’re people who never interact with minorities at all and so get no pushback when they just passively accept the idea that they are stealing all the jobs in the US. They don’t know any trans people and so when they hear that trans people are groomers, the in just go “that’s horrible! Someone should do something about that”.
We need to remember that these people are a large portion of half the US we constantly have to fight against. They’re not all just a hateful swarm, there’s variety within that mass. They’re our relatives and our neighbors. A large amount of these people are really just insanely gullible and don’t see past their own noses. That gullibility is a mark on their quality, yes. They can still be decent human beings, despite that. They can also be corrected if you get them to understand, which I’ve done before. Many others have done the same.
Skyline969@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
It must be exhausting and lonely seeing the world in black and white.
Whateley@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Those mental gymnastics you perform daily to justify being friends with hateful morons must be twice as exhausting.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Must be nice to be able to not be a subject of people’s bigotry and think that people who are actively trying to remove other people’s rights and even have a hand in causing people’s deaths could be considered “decent people”.
Considering you immediately turned on me for having a different opinion on who could be considered “decent people”, you are likely to be similar to them in their lack of empathy towards people who are different. Maybe you’re not exactly the most qualified person to determine who is “decent people”.
But please, prove me wrong and show me that empathy you seem to have for your so-called “decent people”. I’d suggest starting with treating me like a person and asking “why do you feel that way?” instead of spewing negative comments towards me.
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Apparently you project your toxicity onto the decent (eventhough you’re a leftist) Nuance is clearly, not your forte
gift_of_gab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I can’t think of a single Conservative social talking point that would make them good people. You have to remember these are the same people who want to ban abortion, gay marriage, remove rights from minorities, and have ‘in’ and ‘out’ crowds. There’s no ‘good people’ there. They may perform good actions, sure, but their belief system is entirely about stagnation and dogma.
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Left aren’t any better, they have stallin apologists for one
inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Everyone I know who voted for trump did so because they’ve been crushed by inflation under biden and disagree with his awful foreign policy. NONE of them are of the christofascist conservative variety. Most of them voted split tickets.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You went pretty quickly into insulting me simply because I don’t agree that hateful bigots should be considered “decent people”.
You’ve shown plenty of evidence that you are not qualified to determine who are “decent people” and who is “toxic”. Seems I was able to determine the toxic nuance embedded in your comment just fine.
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah when you go Leftist good, Rightist bad, well let’s say that, that kind of dumb thinking is what makes you lose strength in the eyes of apolitical people & invites trouble , the world of politics is too murky for you behave like that
Oh & as for rudeness, you’re the very definition of hateful since you cannot compartmentalize, You have made your politics into your entire identity & as for rooting out things; Leftists have been losing a lot of potential recruits lately haven’t they (you couldn’t root out your own toxicity)
teslasaur@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This attitude makes liberals loose elections.
Of course there are descent people on “the right”, what would you call them if theoretically, they voted for what you want? Would they still be terrible people, just voted correctly?
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What exactly is the logic of your comment? The attitude of people judging right wingers based on their own actions makes “liberals lose* elections”? Where exactly is the information you’re basing this on? Your gut feeling? None of what you said made any sense.
The actions of voting for people who want to remove people’s rights. The actions of supporting a rapist convicted felon liar. The actions of spreading lies that cost people their lives. The actions of spreading hate towards LGBTQ+ people and anyone who is not willing to be a bigot towards them too, like library workers who get so many death threats they have to leave their job and town. All of these of their own actions are what makes them no longer decent* people, not the label itself. Their hateful, disgusting actions.
How does that exactly cause liberals to lose elections?
People who are willing to do and/or support any or all of the aforementioned behaviors had already made up their mind on who they would vote for. When logic and reason was never even involved in their decision in the first place, then logic and reason is not going to magically start working suddenly.
teslasaur@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You’re judging people based on some flaky righty-lefty dogma that attempts to put people in teams. Stop doing that, and think a bit more logically. People have a million different reasons for thinking a certain way about different subjects, and they might still be kind people. Of the top of my head, i remember the pair of guys who let Borat stay with them. They had the most insane ideas about politics that i’ve ever heard. But they let a random “immigrant” stay in their house, and didn’t utter a single word of complaint. So you’d think they are pretty tolerant. Much more tolerant than a lot of people who vote left that i’ve mer. Those are the kind people that you lose to the other side. Especially when you call them evil, or whatever you think they might be.
My gut feeling? You did lose the election. Are you not living in the same world I am? You have lost touch with what people want and prioritize.
Judge people on action, but don’t fucking label half your country as evil. Many of them have been spoonfed lies like religion since birth.