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• jumjummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’re a naive fool if you think democrats have an “open border policy”. Go talk to your right wing business owners and suggest that if we really wanted to stop illegal immigration, we would jail business owners who hire them. Surprise surprise, those right wing owners exploit these people but don’t really want to stop any illegal immigration.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Funny because, those right wing business owners never said that They would rather employ their own people, rather than those immigrants

    You’re talking about corporations, who don’t really have any political affiliation & try to suck up to anyone who is currently in charge

    Again you assume all right-winger are the same, People are very nuanced & it’s naive to go “Leftists = bad & Rightists = scumbags”

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    • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I imagine this is the kind of nonsense political take one develops when they go through life only skimming a few grade school economics textbooks and actively disregarding all other reality or thought.

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      • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sounds like you’re projecting your lack of insight into humans onto me Unlike your priviledge ass, I come from a minority & worked my way to a stable job

        my fellow minorities (along with me) mostly never got the welfare that they deserve. You’re too busy crapping on Right-wingers & not actually putting in the work

        Keep that up & you’ll lose even more footing, you need to clean up the opposition (As in the democrats), but judging from this Thread It’s not going to happen (I’ll be glad if it did though)

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• Whateley@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  1. Those are called tankies and nobody likes them. Especially those of us on the left.

  2. “Marginalizing the majority”. Yeah, because white Americans are so marginalized with their hegemonic control over the state and capital.

  3. Oh, no! The economy is tanking because Juan from Chiapas got a job picking oranges for a Dole contractor in California for less than federal minimum wage because his shitbird boss pays him under the table. Do you know how fucking stupid that sounds?

  No, there is no world outside of politics. The personal is political. Choosing to associate with ignorant bigots says more about your values than any half-cocked appeal to moderation.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What hedgemonic control ? People have been losing jobs left & right

    The right knows how to mask their hatred when it counts, while the left is busy virtue-signaling, Anyone half-intelligent will use whatever tools effective & honestly so will

    Rightist policy of exclusion is pretty good you know, I want to exclude capitalists from society for e.g

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• meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  noooo you HAVE to enforce borders with violence!!! How else will you keep out all the cretins from nations whose infrastructure you’ve destroyed and resources you’ve plundered!!! You can’t possibly take care of all those people, think of tHe EcOnOmY!!! hahaha that’s so funny guy you really think this is a normal and well adjusted view of the world. The scare quotes around uplifting minorities is a cherry on top. You’re so devoid of empathy you can’t even fucking imagine a world of people that actually care about each other for the sake of their humanity.

  I’ll take a “stallin apologist” over a capitalist that cares more about his stocks than his fellow man. Any fucking day of the week.

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  • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And this is where the left fucks up. I live in a state full of ski resorts (and work for one) where they import cheap legal immigrant H1B and J1 labor rather than pay living wages to locals, depressing area wages.

    During the 2020-2021 season, they couldn’t import labor because the borders were closed over covid. Guess what? I got a $4.00 an hour raise instead of a $0.40 raise.

    I support refugees coming here, I do not support the current immigration system that abuses cheap foreign labor and treats them like slaves because they have very few rights and if they meaningfully speak up at their work place asking for better work conditions they get sent home.

    Liberals support that bullshit because it fuels their treat economy. Leftists should not.

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    • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Absolutely, I fully agree with you. We are experiencing the same depression of wages in the engineering sector because of these abusive practices. I still live quite comfortably as an engineer but I am watching the conditions develop for it to be taken from me as it has from others.

      I question how it can be that I interact with more foreign nationals than the marginalized peoples of my own country, especially those like myself whom I grew up with that have all the same drive I do. I am watching as the ladder that got me here is being stuffed with exploitable labor and pulled back up, when more should be going down and leading to more diverse careers that actually serve humanity. Unlike my industry whose entire business model is taking an essential service from our countrymen so they could sell it back to us in a form that regularly kills and financially burdens us.

      Sorry about your health situation. It really sucks that we live under such oppressive conditions, with leaders would allow our needs to be deprived from us simply because we do not have the wealth that they are accountable to. It feels like a cliché to say money is the root of all evil but every day it gets harder to avoid such an apparent truth.

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      • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Absolutely, I fully agree with you. We are experiencing the same depression of wages in the engineering sector because of these abusive practices. I still live quite comfortably as an engineer but I am watching the conditions develop for it to be taken from me as it has from others.

        One of my favorite things is watching trumps base lose their fucking shit over musk and ramaswamys support for importing cheap foreign labor to enrich themselves.

        I’ve always suspected the learn to code rhetoric was to cheapen the labor force on behalf of capitalists. I think the same thing now about trade work. Our rulers just want cheap exploitable labor and they don’t care how they get it. They’ll reinstate slavery (not that it ever fully left with the 13th amendment and all).

        I don’t think it’s an accident that so much of that cheap foreign labor in the tech industry originates from India - a place with strict social hierarchy (caste system) and an undercurrent of fascism.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I do care about empathy, just not for people who keep saying “Right wing bad, Left wing good” When have you actually done something for the working class ??

    Oh & reminder Stallin apologists are class traitors, if these are the people you’d chose then you are basically killing your own movement you’re too busy marginalizing the majority, which can be turned to your side

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    • gift_of_gab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When have you actually done something for the working class ??

      I march in solidarity with striking union workers while the Conservatives in my area call for them to be ordered back to work.

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    • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      marginalizing the majority

      🐶😙

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    • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh & reminder Stallin apologists are class traitors.

      Who told you that? The American capitalist class? You really trust what they have to say about the leader of a socialist country they were trying to justify a war with, and prevent their own working class from getting any ideas, at all costs?

      I invite you to challenge all beliefs that have been formed under a state which finds itself threatened by socialist revolution.

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• inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Stalin apologists are mostly an online phenomenon and a tiny but loud minority. I’m leftist and anarchist. Authoritarian communism/socialism (since USSR was never communist…) doesn’t interest me. And theory from the turn of the 20th century is nice but doesn’t apply well to the extreme tech advancement of the 21st.

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• gift_of_gab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Left aren’t any better, they have stallin apologists for one, in your quest to “give rights to minorities” you end up marginalizing the majority for two & three your open border policy causes massive economic damage

  So I’m going to skip the obvious Russian talking points here (open border policy causes economic damage? What the fuck are you talking about? Stalin apologists–like Putin? He’s not Left wing) and go straight to

  “you end up marginalizing the majority”

  No, you don’t. One of the key socialist ideals is that when one person suffers, we all suffer. There are arguments about how to reach true equanimity, but until then just by being ‘the standard’ you are impossible to marginalize. Conservatism puts men first, especially in our movies:

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  Room temperature? Designed for middle aged white men.

  If men are ‘demonized,’ why are only 8.2% of CEO’s women? Why are abortions controlled, but not vasectomies?

  I understand why you are saying these things though, people on ‘the Right’ fall for Russian propaganda far more than ‘the Left’ do:

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