Comment on Totally forgot there were subreddits that did this lol

• HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’ve gotten bans in communities on .ml that I haven’t even commented in for things they didn’t like me saying in a different community on their instance. Nowhere else has done this. I now expect 4 bans in .ml communities.

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  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I agree this is dumb and childish, but whats really the issue here? They can decide what and who they want to see on their site. It doesnt affect your usage of lemmy in general, just the communities hosted on the site that decided they dont like you.

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    • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There is the double standards.

      The fact that they ban people from communities they haven’t interacted with over not liking your shit when they bitch about being silenced.

      It seems like they want everyone to bend the knee to their echo chamber.

      I don’t know how I haven’t been downvoted by them for this.

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      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Probably because they cant see your comment because you are banned lmao. I would love if everyone just got along with each other, but taking instance admins ability, to decide what they want to store on their server, away from them is definitely not a strategy that leads anywhere but a cesspool of shit.

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  • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This bullshit of going through someone’s post history and not liking it so you ban them for a group that you mod is so reddit. If the poster has not violated the group rules that’s all that matters. And I never understood why anyone would actually go through a poster’s history. It’s social media which is all phony bullshit anyway.

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  • kuato@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Multiple simultaneous community bans are almost always artifacts of a site ban. Site bans don’t reliably federate in the modlog, so you have to check the modlog at the site that banned you: lemmy.ml/modlog?actionType=ModBan&userId=5313048

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• cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s one thing to ban someone for posts and content on the instance itself

  It’s very modern-Reddit like to ban someone who never posted anything on your instance’s communities

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  • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The nature of federation means that even if you never post anything to my instance, your garbage may still be visible to my people via tangential interactions on shared linked instances. Bans solve this on the local instance level and are by far the easiest way to accomplish this.

    (To be clear, the “you” in this is not referring to you specifically OP, it’s a general term)

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That’s like China setting up police station in other countries to police behavior outside their borders.

      If your users go somewhere with laxer rules, it’s not your place to try to impose your rules on people who don’t even use your site.

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      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That’s like China setting up police stations in other countries to enforce Chinese censorship outside their borders.

        No it is exactly the opposite. Its like banning people that are known criminals from entering your country. Countries have laws(rules) and if someone breaks those rules, no matter where they were at the time, you can just say “No we dont want to see you here”.

        That happens all the time in the real world and is perfectly reasonable.

        What also happens in the real world tho is arrest/execution for crimes abroad. I would compare that to a complete lemmy wide ban where someone doesnt just get banned from one instance but every single one of them.

        But that doesnt really happen here so i dont see a problem.

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      • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Well, with the added detail that the censorship would only apply to Chinese people. You won’t get a good real-world metaphor.

        It’s still quite messed up, and if ml mods dislike the other instances rules that much, they should just defederate them.

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There are certainly valid reasons for it and it’s also a fairly controversial thing to do. IMO it should be reserved for obvious spam/scam accounts or other problematic content accounts (e.g. Posting harmful misinformation or propaganda, illegal content, hate speech etc), not as a tool for “content I don’t agree with, but is otherwise fine”

      However, that being said, my meme isn’t really about whether or not it’s a just or good/bad thing to do, it’s about the irony of a group who consistently shits on .world as being “Reddit-like” to pull a page straight out of the reddit mod playbook

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yes, and it is up to those users to decide that by themselves.

      Your job is to keep your instance clean, and defederate when your users want to. Not to police other instances and force them to do your bidding. You have no authority there. It is up to those instance mods.

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